joe hart deal almost done

his goal scoring record is dire but..........seriously though this is a good signing for me. imo hes better than what we have. people say adrian is better but I cant see it. I also believe hes high profile and that in itself helps to attract players. no complaints from me. an england keeper in goal for hamners once again.

I don't see the attraction
He is no better than the two we have already and he comes with a huge wage bill, we can do better. BTW he is an ex-England keeper.

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Dicks is the man's picture

why ex? are you sure hes not gonna get another cap? no better than randolph? I thought both our keepers were poor last year.

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Lenuse's picture

Like him or not, he's an improvement on what we have there at the moment. Randolph is not a top class 'keeper and is error prone, and whilst Adrian is a terrific shot stopper at times, he lacks the all round game that's needed at top level and is also prone to basic mistakes.
Hart is more my kind of 'keeper. More solid, more reliable and above all, more consistent. The right man at the right time for me.

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andycarrollstyle's picture

How can you say Hart is more reliable given his known weakness at set pieces? The last couple of seasons have seen his worst form! I think Adrian has been unfairly tarnished by a couple of costly errors but when you look at it, Adrian is a sweeper keeper - yes he has been caught out in he past but for many games he is our last line of defence. Our back line was a lot worse when Randolph was in goal and he got away with a lot more errors before he was dropped. I think Adrian is a lot better keeper than many people realise and a large part of that also is because he has a real winning mentality

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Agree Andy. I know my memory ain't great but I don't remember Adrian having many problems at free kicks and for some clubs that's a big outlet for chances. For me Adrian wasn't at his best last season but apart from a few iffy games last season I don't think he has let us down.

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moore2come's picture

I think the fact he's now moved to WH ends his England career. No secret that a ridiculous succession of manager's in the top job have overlooked West Ham's players despite their form. Antonio is the only one who has come close lately and he's still waiting for that elusive cap. Trust me, Hart's days of representing his country are over until he leaves us.

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asheshammer's picture

He probably is better than either of our current goalkeepers, but why then all the headlines declaring "Randy NFS"? If we need Hart, sell Randolph. Besides, even though we can always improve at any position, keeper wasn't the position of greatest need for us. And though Hart is good, he's not one of the best in the league. If we really had wanted a keeper we should have been in for Pickford. For me this is all a distraction.

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If it goes pear shaped then no big loss,but lets hope he does the business...

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Dicks is the man's picture

i do agree with this. theres also the issue that bilic doesnt rate adrian so why keep him too? if he wants Hart, thats fine but as you say get rid of the others or at least one of them. I'm not sure about pickford though on two fronts - one we were never paying 30 mill for a keeper, two would he have chosen us over everton? I'm also agreeing that signing hart is good but it can't be the end. if we close this window with just hart and zabaletta and a bunch of freebies like last year…then to be honest i'd give up on this board all together. i don't even know why we are sniffing around players like Arnautovic, who everyone says is a winger….why do we need another winger ? I'm pretty sure they think he's the answer to our striker problem, in which case we're in real trouble.

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asheshammer's picture

So, OK, if we can get Hart and release one of our other two keepers (I think Adrian is better than Randolph), then that's improvement at a position, and we want that always at every position. But absolutely they have to do more than that, because Gold himself said our need is not in defense.

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We need another winger because Feghouli and possibly snodgrass are leaving and we lack quality out on the left.

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hammergirl's picture

until he is lining a wall up and the free kick comes in we will all be holding our breath....nice to see though that the striker priority for some reason has taken a backseat!

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mcbikeman's picture

overrated and over paid...just my opinion though

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Dicks is the man's picture

but bike man, every player in modern football is overrated and overpaid….

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andycarrollstyle's picture

Carlton Cole wasn't.

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boogerscaravan's picture

So who pays for his head and shoulders adverts? Ha Ha Ha

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Can't help thinking this is moving deckchairs on the titanic. Sullivan is a bit like me shopping, go out to buy one thing and forgetting what it was and then buying something else. Thought they were only considering strikers, neither hart or arnie are strikers no matter how you spin it. Wait until Sullivan says he doesn't have the money for a decent striker cause he bought a keeper. Then after harts loan and Adrian is sold we will be back to square 1. Could be next seasons right back scenario. I do however believe what dicksy say about the fact he is a bigger name and may attract bigger players.

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asheshammer's picture

Sometimes chairmen think of big names attracting fans rather than players. That's why they talked up the idea that maybe Tevez would return, and I think they even mentioned Beckham at one point a few years ago. Stars put bums on seats. Not necessarily smart bums, but paying bums. It's why I always cringe when they mention someone past it (Rooney is an example for me) --they still may have a little in the tank, but the reason for signing them is not the current quality of their football.

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If hart was still ok why aren't top clubs in for him or at least clubs midway in the league as they can get him for free and only pay 50,000 a week? It stinks of a signing being bought cause we are getting him on the cheap and not because we want him. Does anyone think if he does ok Sullivan will sign him for 20 million and over a 100,000 a week, next season? On a keeper?

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asheshammer's picture

answer is no way would they sign him for 20M and 100kpw

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I can’t believe some of the negativity I am reading about Joe Hart hopefully joining us. We are a mid table team at best at the moment so we are suddenly too good to have England’s current number 1 in our team!!

I think Hart is a terrific keeper and certainly better than Adrian and Randolph who are both decent keepers but come on Hart is a cut above. Plenty of us Hammers were moaning about the number of mistakes by both of them last season now suddenly we don’t need another keeper! Hart like all keepers throws a few in and has dips in form but he is still young in terms of goalkeepers and I still remember his stunning performance in Barcelona which was only the season before last.

Good deal for me initially on loan and if we can get a couple of these attacking players over the line then hopefully we will all be looking forward to this coming season a bit more.

COYI

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One of the biggest problems is he wasn't a priority position, when we don't have a fit striker and we are yet to replace Payet.

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asheshammer's picture

Even when I disagree with you, your positivity is a good influence. I think Hart is good -- just don't see GK as a top priority.

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For me mate right back, striker and goalkeeper were issues for us last season and I see Hart as an upgrade on what we had.

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Totally agree mate TBH its all a bit same old same old, we need some of the old blood back!! A player of Hart's calibre and experience is available and we're bemoaning why others aren't in for him. If we weren't in for him we'd be bemoaning that too. I think there's a lot of whining for whining's sake. Bottom line is he's better than what we have. Isn't that the remit? It's mid July and apparently the transfer window is a failure!!

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mcbikeman's picture

we need strikers we need strikers we need strikers not bloody gk's def midfielders .....ring a bell mate.... make your mind up

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Take cover everyone! Incoming! (Grabs tin hat and leaves)

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mcbikeman's picture

this made me laugh...not a facebook person myself but mate sent me this link and the commentary was funny IMO..just a little relief from the transfer saga.

https://www.facebook.com/ozzymanreviews/videos/1206885522680646/

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Sausage fest clogging up the door! Priceless

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hammergirl's picture

couple of sheilas walking in unchallenged lol as it should always be!

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plaistow-man's picture

I am pretty much on the fence on this one... on one hand both Adrian and Darren Randolph have made some fantastic saves yet both have had their share of poor performances. Hart is prone to mistakes (just look at the two free kicks he conceded v Scotland) but can pull off some quality stops. But in the case of Hart he has something to prove... out of favour at City and his position (due to Buttland and Forster) under threat for England. Last term some of our defensive displays in front of our keepers did not inspire confidence and the back line and keeper should have an understanding. Englands back line is the poorest I can remember in a long time and fails to inspire confidence. Injuries to key players like Reid and Ogbonna and the release of Tomkins did not help us. Zabaleta should have an understanding with hart as they played together a lot and if Zabs and Hart can forge a a good relationship with the rest of the back line then all good and time will tell.
The old saying "if you don't score goals you can't win games" is akin to "you won't lose games if you don't concede goals" both bloody obvious but if we look back at last season we conceded far too many stupid and avoidable goals and that has to be addressed.

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Bottom line mate is that he's 30 and won tons in football. If Guardiola wasn't so obsessed with tippy tappy he'd still be there. He's being pushed out because he's not great on the ball. Well neither are the two we have now. He's played in huge pressure situations, so he will make mistakes. But he's still better than what we have

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mcbikeman's picture

just reminding you again betty so stop looking an commenting on anything other than STRIKERS....rmbr dont need gk/def/mid

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ANTKB's picture

He's in a different league to what we currently have in Adrian and Randolph. I never feel confident with our current two if I'm honest and although he's made a few blunders, all round he is a much better keeper.

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cast iron's picture

Keep hearing about only on loan , "If it goes Pete Tong we ain't stuck with him" BLA BLA BLA. Rumor Has it (No this ain't Adele) that Citeh want 5 mill + west ham to pay 90% of Joe Harts wages. West ham only want to pay 2 mill plus his wages. I calculated that if citeh get there asking price it works out to 12mil for the year. Thats money that can go towards 2 good strikers. This 12 mill is a lot of money for a position that dont need filling and I tell you what the board have done They have showed both Adriane and Randolph just how good they think they are, and it would'nt surprise me if they both left. How clever are they? So this apparently this is the hold up on the transfer going through. And citeh could have us right where they want us with Randolph already had offers from Sunderland and Middlesborough, and I don't think Adriane will have much trouble finding a new club. Drop the Hart transfer and spend the money on positions that need strengthening like strikers and a pacey left winger, I'm not saying that he 's not a good keeper with lots of experience But we are West Ham not chelski or manure with shed loads of doe, and we can do a lot better than this for 12 mill and this deal ties us up If we want to buy him for next season. Apparently we would not do it with Inacho so why be in the same position with Joe Hart

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I agree with you cast. Couple of curve balls here tho. 1 has bilic fallen out with Adrian last season it did come across that way to some and 2 how has this supposedly stalled on his loan fee AFTER he has passed a medical? Either it's bull or another classic from the board.

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Dicks is the man's picture

cast iron: players can't just 'leave' unless they are no longer under contract? doesnt matter what people may think these days, you can't just walk out of a club when you are under contract. even if they have had offers from sunderland etc, its not a case of 'oh well i'll just be off then, goodbye.' they can throw toys out and go on strike, but really for two average keepers to do this, its just not a serious concern. its only that payet was in a position of power being the best player at the club and worth the most that he got away with it. even then the club was the one who decided on his future. and on the flip side, if you sign hart and pay whatever and theres offers in for randolph, you sell randolph then no?

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cast iron's picture

All Adriane And Randolph need to do is put in a transfer request an d bang there gone. Look at Marco Autovic at Stoke he has head turned by us he is gone with the same old scenario we dont want a player if he does'nt want to play for the club. Its happened a lot over the past few seasons, in the end the player always wins,

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asheshammer's picture

Joe Hart is a Hammer.

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If true we all need to get behind hart.

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hammergirl's picture

we can keep the ball out of the net:-)

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