Identity

it was mentioned by me before that our style of play has no real foundation. people argued but then which clubs do? but to me i look at managers who have been in their positions a while now, pulis, poch, mourinho, conte, klopp, hughes, hughton, wagner, benitez, howe, dyche….and you can see what it is they have built in terms of squad and style. all these managers set up basically the same way for all their games, only tweaking slightly if opposition is a worry. for example dyche will revert to 5 in mid, howe likes to put 5 at the back in big games. on the whole you can see what each manager wants to achieve on the pitch come match day. i was watching brighton v newcastle and it was clear as day that newcastle were the usual difficult to beat, solid set up and brighton were 4-4-2 with flying, energetic wide players. both managers had a plan, the players had been drilled in this setup not just for a week or so, but ever since the manager took over. the result is they look like they know what they are doing. players know where to find their teammates runs, where the striker will be for a cross, what the plan is in terms of trying to create chances etc etc. hughes sets his stoke side up with the emphasis on a well drilled defence, 3 sitting behind a striker……dyche drills his side to death making sure each player knows his role in the side, howe wants his side to pass it short and break with pace…..klopp wants his team to press and press up the field…each system has flaws but they know what they want to achieve…..and then i look at our side from game to game and i have no clue whatsoever as to what the setup is or the plan. its hard to believe that we have a manager who doesnt know after 3 seasons how he wants to play. evidence of this is the constant changing we've had back 3, back 4, back 5….3 up front, 1 up front, strikers playing wide, midfielders playing in defence….is it me or is this bewildering? I've hear of tweaking your line up but this is plain ridiculous now. we buy players each window without a clue of line up, only after we sign them do we start going through formations to see what works? what we've ended up with is a club that has a manager with no style, no basic managerial style. you appoint allardyce, you know whats coming, you know what sort of players he will need….we are a complete muddle. If only bilic had stuck to his counter attack style of season 1. he would then have been buying players to fit into that system and by now we'd have been established as a counter attacking, pacey side with a back 4. its like every two games we start over again with Bilic deciding something else will do. anyone else noticed?

I believe bilic thinks he IS playing that counter attacking style. Trouble is he hasn't project that to his team well and hasn't bought accordingly or trained them properly. He moaned in the summer about us needing pace and yet brings on Carroll for Antonio on Saturday, all mixed signals. Antonio the speed of a Ferrari for Carroll the speed of a horse box. He also plays noble no pace. On that subject obiang is supposed to be fit on Saturday, who's taking bets on both noble and Carroll playing? You can't say you want speed and then use these 2 all the time unless you are an idiot. P.s. We have no identity.

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moore2come's picture

Carroll has a habit of scoring goals against Swansea and by habit I mean he's has scored against them previously. So I expect him to start which is a shame as he really is at best an impact player for us now.

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moore 6 legend's picture

Might be counting on carroll,hearing chicha pulled up in training,we can never get em all fit together can we

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Lanzini and Antonio both fit for the game.

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moore 6 legend's picture

Yes,a very much welcome boost red,but that's what I mean,never get a fully fit squad mate,as one comes back in one goes out,i hope big mick has fully recovered though

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Moore6, just heard Hernandez should be ok so everyone apart from ginge is available. If we seize the initiative from the start we will probably win if not we will struggle to get any points. No excuses for this one. We have 3 top strikers available so I believe it should be easy but it won't be. Be interesting what bilic does IMO sakho should play from the start, but he won't. Carroll has a good record against Swansea and Hernandez is our top scorer.

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moore 6 legend's picture

I think slav;is going for a 442 this is what I got

Hart
Zabaleta Reid Fonte Cresswell
Ayew Noble Kouyate Antonio
Carroll Hernandez

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moore 6 legend's picture

We,ve gone from free flowing attacking football,direct and dangerous on the break, found a way of playing to the players strengths,TO seems like some sort of experiment

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Dicks is the man's picture

Prof Bilic in the lab? pots bubbling away….experimenting with bits of carroll and bits of chichirito…..

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moore 6 legend's picture

Haha yeah,and the other players on the shelf in jars,emmmm what should I try out today :)

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Dicks is the man's picture

a sewn up Kieron Dyer emerges from the slab……its alive! The monster is alive!

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moore 6 legend's picture

lol professor bilic says to dyer, you are one of my most striking achievements,you will play up top

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Dicks is the man's picture

Lol Dyer steps off the slab and his arm falls off….Prof Bilic says 'don't worry about that my son, you won't be taking any throws..'

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moore 6 legend's picture

Ha ha brilliant that has had me on the floor mate,

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moore 6 legend's picture

Bilic says,don't you go losing your head in this game now ,you won't have a leg to stand on

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lol, and his head actually does fall off. Dyer lying on the turf, headless, legless and armless….Prof Bilic says to assistant 'ah, i think we'd better put him at right back now...'

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moore 6 legend's picture

And the assistant say's yes right back to the lab,after the game prof bilic,gives a press conference ,and he's ask what he made of the game, we'll we got ourselves ahead,it's over there in the bucket,and then it all fell to pieces from there on..

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burkie's picture

When Bilic sees his head fall off he say "bollox i hope his eyesight doesn't deteriorate ,he's fucked if he need glasses "

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moore 6 legend's picture

And bilic,has him some glasses made up,but quickly returns em,and says to the opticans,these are no bloody good,he's still not seeing things my way

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