Moyes..all talk and no product?

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Submitted by Dicks is the man on Wed, 22/11/2017 - 08:15

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moyes has been talking himself up a lot since he arrived. all this 'i don't want to talk about everton' and yet constantly talking about everton….its a bit like mourinho saying he doesnt talk about injuries and then going on and on about injuries. kinda like someone who says 'no offence' and then goes on to offend. anyway, looking at the set up against watford i can see better organisation defensively. the back 4 looked better imo than anything under bilic this season. but we mustered nothing in terms of attack. carroll was up there on his own and the midfield 5 was basically there to do an allardyce. my concern is that moyes is so hellbent on sorting out the defence and making us 'hard to beat' that we will continue to offer nothing going forward. even at 2 down he didnt want to put two up front. I'm beginning to think that he may have been talking the talk but that he's past it now and even his 'everton' system is outdated. the only sad consolation if he fails will be to teach the board a lesson. id say relegation might be a good thing i.e. the usual clear out and rebuild but we've not got a stadium to fall back on this time and also we been there done that and ended up worse. the only way this club will get sorted imo is if the board go and someone takes over like at newcastle or even someone with more sense and understanding on how to run a club. reading allardyce (who himself carries a whiff of dodgy dealings with him) and how he says Sully lets his son play with the club as if its his toy, making stupid remarks online and getting involved in personal attacks on players….its just embarrassing. when you look at them in the stands, looking down on the 'peasants' who pay to watch the drivel served up each week and the final whistle goes and off they go back to the limo for 5 start dining and home to the mansion….they just look deluded. why not give the fans something? why not appoint Dyche who i think we may have got since everton don't want him, or bring in someone who's style suits the club more….Betty is right, Moyes and his brand of football is not going to change….those who pay are going to suffer this 'hard to beat', one up front stuff till the end of the season now and even then we will probably go down because moyes has been there and done that with sunderland. i had some slight optimism, just that maybe moyes with his new talk and positivity would offer a lot more in sense of all round team play. yes its early, but can anyone see his style morphing into something more than get it wide and put it into the box?

Hammers65

Wed, 22/11/2017 - 09:15

That we might have been in better shape defensively,but overall i see nothing different,i want moyes to succeed but hes bigged himself up too much & is on a hiding to nothing imo....one person who did try i thought was arnie,he should have scored but for their keepers heroics.Hes got it in his locker,but unfortunately goes missing too much imo.Look at the next few games leicester,everton,then chelsea,arsenal & citeh.its going to take a miracle to get any points from these games...& you will have the board sitting there smugly but knowing f*ck all what to do!!

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Red Neck Iron

Wed, 22/11/2017 - 17:40

Dicksy, you got that opinion on moyes after one game? Now that is knee jerk. Ok we are all very p1ssed of but give the guy a chance! And direct it at the right people. Board and possibly players.

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Dicks is the man

Wed, 22/11/2017 - 18:12

1 game? how about the last 100? lol. hope you're right but the new dawn was pretty pathetic.

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The Ironworker

Sun, 26/11/2017 - 10:12

The prob is that so much damage has been done in the last 12 months that we now need to become hard to beat . the whole place is a mess and needs to be sorted out and that has to start at the back. as much as people may not like it clean sheets are now important and once the defence is functional and a solid unit we can then start to expand.
Moyes has been in the job for 5 minutes which is nowhere near enough tim to sort out the mess hes inherited so patience is the key here.
Stop conceding, stay solid and where neccesary play ugly, be hard to beat and hard to play against then open things up.

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Sun, 26/11/2017 - 10:20

yes but being hard to beat and scoring goals is not contradictory. moyes style is defensive so dont expect this open football anytime soon or ever.

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The Ironworker

Sun, 26/11/2017 - 21:03

Sick of "styles of play" etc. Results are what's wanted and in our position its not important how to get them.

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Dicks is the man

Sun, 26/11/2017 - 21:16

ok but you mentioned style by saying opening up. im just saying its hard to see that style in moyes.

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The Ironworker

Tue, 28/11/2017 - 00:28

Every clean sheet gleans a point at lest, goals will come with it and wins as a result. If you don't concede, you don't lose and trying to open the game up will not get the results that we need now. I never mentioned a specific "style", all i said was if you get it right at the back you can start to open things up, it's progression rather than being a slave to a set style and at the moment 1-0 wins will do us and any way we can get them will do. Get more points then start to develop a "style". Results = substance and that has to come before anything else when your in the botom 3

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Wed, 22/11/2017 - 18:31

if you missed this article i love the way the young jack and the club try to cover up there shortcomings with "miscommunication" defence lol enjoy it burkie should make you chuckle

http://www.kumb.com/story.php?id=131859

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moore 6 legend

Wed, 22/11/2017 - 19:49

So basically the club, have got a kid to get on the blower to smooth things over,what next have him in the dressing room to try and motivate the players.

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Dicks is the man

Wed, 22/11/2017 - 20:41

hes already there, apparently being groomed under moyes for the managers role in 6 months. its win win lol

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Hammers65

Wed, 22/11/2017 - 18:53

Is young jack is now the ladies team chairman...F*cking hell you couldnt make it up!!;)

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moore 6 legend

Wed, 22/11/2017 - 20:17

Don't want to hear anymore big talk,want to see results,that goes for the manager and players.
Obiang: “We need time to understand better what Moyes wants and we have to work more to be fit. to do what he wants.....need time lol when will they understand it it will be too late.
How about the players understanding what the fans want which is 100% commitment and being proud of wearing the West Ham Shirt.No hiding place for players anymore you are all very fortunate to be in such a well paid career so tell the others to respect us and do it for us on Fri ,cheers!

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Red Neck Iron

Wed, 22/11/2017 - 20:43

Moyes and the players have said their bit so I hope they go quietly about their business. As for the board I heard there is gonna a major protest before/ during the game on Friday. Heard 2 things one was gonna be outside and another was, that people won't take their seat it about the tenth minute.

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mcbikeman

Thu, 23/11/2017 - 07:55

speaks volumes more than chanting sack the board etc and will embarrass sullivan and co a lot more.....as for those poor players well if they dont give a shit why should we!

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Dicks is the man

Thu, 23/11/2017 - 08:18

But people have already paid their hard earned money for tickets, so to expect them to not even go and waste their money is too much to ask imo.

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mcbikeman

Thu, 23/11/2017 - 08:19

thats why the people at the top win but an empty stadium for 10/15mins live on tv shown around the world would be very embarrassing and like i said make the point.

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Hammers65

Thu, 23/11/2017 - 08:23

Pay all that money out of loyalty....ive just spent 180+ quid on tickets for the arse game & im regretting it already!!

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Dicks is the man

Thu, 23/11/2017 - 08:25

blimey, is that how much it is these days? for what they produce on the field in general in the prem league they ought to be giving tickets out free.

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Ausiron

Thu, 23/11/2017 - 09:15

What would everyone miss in the first 15 minutes if they hang outside the ground on Friday anyway, they'll still be on warm up while Vardy's having a party........
Like you say, it would make a statement on TV
If I had paid good hard earned for a ticket, 15 mins ain't gonna hurt is it.
Thoughts?

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Hammers65

Thu, 23/11/2017 - 09:21

Was in a rush to get to their seats,especially after half time,the bar was still packed at the beginning of the second half...

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Dicks is the man

Thu, 23/11/2017 - 09:28

i agree 15 mins is fine, but bike man never mentioned that so i assumed the boycott meant the whole match.

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Hammers65

Thu, 23/11/2017 - 09:18

I dont mind paying it if the players turn up!!i feel it could be my last game at the place though

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Dicks is the man

Thu, 23/11/2017 - 09:26

crikey…..go and watch lower league mate, better value no doubt and better quality football by all accounts.

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mcbikeman

Thu, 23/11/2017 - 20:25

sadly though we no whose net that will be in!

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Red Neck Iron

Thu, 23/11/2017 - 20:46

Now isn't the inclusion of a booking fee on every ticket you get ( regardless of what event) just a pure con! Went to see Matilda earlier in the year it was almost £30 booking fee per tickets! Never again will I pay that.

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Red Neck Iron

Thu, 23/11/2017 - 20:48

P.s there has been a new pressure group started today based on the problems we are having with board and stadium. They expect a demo against Chelsea and arsenal games.

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mcbikeman

Thu, 23/11/2017 - 21:20

David Moyes is 100 per cent sold on the London Stadium claiming it is “brilliant” and that nobody should be allowed “to tell you any different.”

The manager said: “I’ve been down a couple of times in the week and was there a year ago as manager of Sunderland. It’s a brilliant stadium and don’t let anybody tell you any different. It’s going to be the stadium we play in for the next 100 years.

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Dicks is the man

Fri, 24/11/2017 - 10:31

so he's saying that he's gonna be managing us for the next 100 years? oh dear.

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moore 6 legend

Sat, 25/11/2017 - 09:26

lol

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Hammers65

Fri, 24/11/2017 - 10:14

By Louis theroux at the time...& moyes kept filming him at the same time

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moore 6 legend

Sat, 25/11/2017 - 09:45

lol,still have that scene in my head too dave,moyes of scientology ;)

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Hammers65

Sat, 25/11/2017 - 10:39

Comments were spot on...
Read another fans comment on another site regarding "The fans & noise last night"

It felt like when youve had a row with your partner and youve both been sulking & no one wants to break the ice.one of you has to give the other one a hug to show you still love them.the fans did that last night.they saw a glimmer from the team & gave them a rousing,noisy hug to remind them they still love their club.
Reminds me of when we were 35000 friends rather than 60000 strangers.....

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moore 6 legend

Sat, 25/11/2017 - 11:25

Nice 1 dave,good way of summing it up mate.we're all in it together, COYI

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Hammers65

Sat, 25/11/2017 - 13:04

He summed it up perfectly there stan!!

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Red Neck Iron

Fri, 24/11/2017 - 19:10

Heard the team is pretty much the same as Watford donkey keeps his place only noble gets dropped for masaku. Well anyone believe itl work this time whereas it's struggled for the last 20?

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Sat, 25/11/2017 - 11:09

Who's style suits the club? Someone like Bilic you mean?

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Dicks is the man

Sat, 25/11/2017 - 11:41

no why? moyes likes a donkey up front, for me thats outdated. we need to move on.

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moore 6 legend

Tue, 28/11/2017 - 07:25

Moyes is now giving advice on the unsworth job,he's been back in a job for 10 min,and now thinks he's alex Ferguson,guffaw!
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-5122913/David-Unsworth...

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Tue, 28/11/2017 - 08:10

Lol, if Unsworth is still in charge on wed and we don't beat them…moyes better go to the championship and 'earn his corn'. hahahaha.

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moore 6 legend

Tue, 28/11/2017 - 08:24

lol,that's exactly what I was thinking dicksy.

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Dicks is the man

Tue, 28/11/2017 - 08:35

he does dig himself some holes. first day at sunderland….."yeah, its relegation battle"….'er but David, we haven't started the season yet..'….."yep, relegation battle ahead" lol

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moore 6 legend

Tue, 28/11/2017 - 08:49

Yeah,he's either very confident of our precarious precision,or someone in a white coat will be taking him away very soon, lol

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Hammers65

Tue, 28/11/2017 - 09:51

Shouldnt he be concentrating on westham.just a thought

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Dicks is the man

Tue, 28/11/2017 - 11:45

he doesnt want to talk about everton…..

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