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Everton, and clearly Fat Sam, keen on Cresswell, paper talk of a £25M bid. I like the guy but this looks like quite good business. Would be sorry to see him go, hes English, established prem player... just wonder what you guys think?
Still, I think that's pretty close to his true valuation. For me he hasn't turned the corner to become a star -- on again off again. Trouble is replacing him, even at £25M.
we need to stop selling our best players. cress well has been good this season under Moyes, he's been asked to play in a new position and he's done it well. we're short on defenders as well. no sale.
I'd go as far s to say hes been underrated this season dicksie. Still keep seeing people slate him, even though hes got more assists then lanzini this season i believe
i agree Fred mate. And he's only going to get better under Moyes who knows how to set up a defence. I can see Pearce guiding him as well, left sided CB yes but he can get forward from the back line and deliver a great cross.
Defending has been reasonably good, but I honestly haven't seen anything special from him this season. Not slating him, and we don't NEED to sell, but I'd hope you're right, Dicksy, that he'll improve under Moyes and Pearce.
yes ashes mate but the thing is he's playing in the centre now (back 3) so you won't see him contributing much other than the odd run out of defence but for the most part defending solidly. its always sad that defenders don't really get credit when they do a good solid job. i think we're used to seeing him racing up and down the wing so we don't think he's contributing as much. not his fault imo, he's in the back 3 now.
That assist for carroll puts Cress on 7 assists for the season now, playing majority of the season at center back. Top assists for a defender in the league.
Yep. Sell for £25 mill and who do we get to replace him? A cheaper player? Or someone who has to start again from scratch and find his feet in a team that sorely needs a bit of stability? We shouldn't be selling until we have a better option in place.
How long has Carroll left on his contract ,sure Sam would take him ,a bit of a gamble but look at the bargain if he could stay off the table and off the old king lear ,a free and 40 grand pay cut ,no brainer
yes he has not been at his best this season but apart from him and rice I would get rid of the rest....like the midfield this area needs a major overhaul and that takes money....reid/ogbonna/Collins/zabaletta/byram all need to be replaced imo
read all of the above and feel that 25M is not great value for an English defender. I was very impressed with him in his first season, since then he has been a bit up and down. My end of year report is Good but can still expect more. On that basis the board need to lock him in for another 3 / 5 years with a new contract.
It will all be about what he wants ultimately. A move back to merseyside with a more established premiership team. His family wouldn’t probably be against it. Besides ooo arfa is better
That Cresswell tops the assists from a defender in the Premiership. This is not just being a defender so I'd like to keep him. If he is sold it needs to be for more than 25mill.
With a better defender for less than 25 mill. Cresswell is good if you play to his strengths. Something Bilic didnt do, Allardyce did and Moyes not far off
nevillenixon
Mon, 09/04/2018 - 13:36
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£25 Million today is the same
£25 Million today is the same as £5 Million a couple of years ago!
asheshammer
Mon, 09/04/2018 - 14:11
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Nev is right.
Still, I think that's pretty close to his true valuation. For me he hasn't turned the corner to become a star -- on again off again. Trouble is replacing him, even at £25M.
Dicks is the man
Mon, 09/04/2018 - 16:23
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we need to stop selling our
we need to stop selling our best players. cress well has been good this season under Moyes, he's been asked to play in a new position and he's done it well. we're short on defenders as well. no sale.
fred149
Mon, 09/04/2018 - 18:51
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I'd go as far s to say hes
I'd go as far s to say hes been underrated this season dicksie. Still keep seeing people slate him, even though hes got more assists then lanzini this season i believe
Dicks is the man
Mon, 09/04/2018 - 20:48
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i agree Fred mate. And he's
i agree Fred mate. And he's only going to get better under Moyes who knows how to set up a defence. I can see Pearce guiding him as well, left sided CB yes but he can get forward from the back line and deliver a great cross.
asheshammer
Tue, 10/04/2018 - 15:14
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I just haven't seen him deliver lately.
Defending has been reasonably good, but I honestly haven't seen anything special from him this season. Not slating him, and we don't NEED to sell, but I'd hope you're right, Dicksy, that he'll improve under Moyes and Pearce.
Dicks is the man
Tue, 10/04/2018 - 15:34
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yes ashes mate but the thing
yes ashes mate but the thing is he's playing in the centre now (back 3) so you won't see him contributing much other than the odd run out of defence but for the most part defending solidly. its always sad that defenders don't really get credit when they do a good solid job. i think we're used to seeing him racing up and down the wing so we don't think he's contributing as much. not his fault imo, he's in the back 3 now.
asheshammer
Tue, 10/04/2018 - 22:47
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good point!
Do you think he's tall enough for a back three?
Dicks is the man
Wed, 11/04/2018 - 07:29
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i havent noticed that its
i havent noticed that its been a disadvantage.
fred149
Wed, 11/04/2018 - 19:58
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Ive noticed that Cress
Ive noticed that Cress actually has a very decent leap.
andycarrollstyle
Thu, 12/04/2018 - 16:08
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like a salmon
like a salmon
fred149
Thu, 19/04/2018 - 16:15
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That assist for carroll puts
That assist for carroll puts Cress on 7 assists for the season now, playing majority of the season at center back. Top assists for a defender in the league.
Dicks is the man
Thu, 19/04/2018 - 16:30
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hes mustard. forget 25 mill,
hes mustard. forget 25 mill, we won't take a penny less than 250 mill.
andycarrollstyle
Mon, 09/04/2018 - 18:24
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Yep. Sell for £25 mill and
Yep. Sell for £25 mill and who do we get to replace him? A cheaper player? Or someone who has to start again from scratch and find his feet in a team that sorely needs a bit of stability? We shouldn't be selling until we have a better option in place.
boogerscaravan
Tue, 10/04/2018 - 10:25
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Exactly who is there out
Exactly who is there out there - Plastic Bertrand from the Saints? Ask yer Grandad kids........
Hammers65
Tue, 10/04/2018 - 16:40
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Ca Plane pour moi...
Belgians attempt at pop-punk back in the day!!
boogerscaravan
Tue, 10/04/2018 - 17:31
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i don't suppose his team
i don't suppose his team mates call him plastic - but if I was his Manager I would - "Oi plastic, get them knees up" .....
Red Neck Iron
Tue, 10/04/2018 - 17:37
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Is the right answer Andy. My
Is the right answer Andy. My fantasy doesn't stretch to Sullivan spending 25 million on a defender.
Burkie 1
Mon, 09/04/2018 - 19:08
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How long has Carroll left on
How long has Carroll left on his contract ,sure Sam would take him ,a bit of a gamble but look at the bargain if he could stay off the table and off the old king lear ,a free and 40 grand pay cut ,no brainer
Burkie 1
moore2come
Tue, 10/04/2018 - 06:57
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Has one more year remaining.
Has one more year remaining. so will probably see it out and then retire.
mcbikeman
Tue, 10/04/2018 - 05:56
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dont sell
yes he has not been at his best this season but apart from him and rice I would get rid of the rest....like the midfield this area needs a major overhaul and that takes money....reid/ogbonna/Collins/zabaletta/byram all need to be replaced imo
Dartford Bhoy
Tue, 10/04/2018 - 20:44
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Keep
read all of the above and feel that 25M is not great value for an English defender. I was very impressed with him in his first season, since then he has been a bit up and down. My end of year report is Good but can still expect more. On that basis the board need to lock him in for another 3 / 5 years with a new contract.
Betty Swollox
Wed, 11/04/2018 - 15:47
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It will all be about what he
It will all be about what he wants ultimately. A move back to merseyside with a more established premiership team. His family wouldn’t probably be against it. Besides ooo arfa is better
Red Neck Iron
Fri, 13/04/2018 - 17:33
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Anyone know if cresswell and
Anyone know if cresswell and arnie are fit to play v Stoke?
North Bank Hammer
Thu, 19/04/2018 - 06:57
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I saw in an article on C&H
That Cresswell tops the assists from a defender in the Premiership. This is not just being a defender so I'd like to keep him. If he is sold it needs to be for more than 25mill.
Deluded Hammer
Mon, 23/04/2018 - 19:26
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Come up
With a better defender for less than 25 mill. Cresswell is good if you play to his strengths. Something Bilic didnt do, Allardyce did and Moyes not far off
Burkie 1
Fri, 27/04/2018 - 00:00
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Jesus ,he's still bleeting on
Jesus ,he's still bleeting on about Allardyce ,how can some one be that infatuated with a football manager for Gaud sake
Burkie 1
Hammers65
Fri, 27/04/2018 - 13:34
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Very strange indeed Burkie...
I could understand it if he was a successfull manager!!
Burkie 1
Wed, 02/05/2018 - 23:15
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Right there 65 a bleedin
Right there 65 a bleedin mercenary if ever there was one
Burkie 1
La Vida Hammer
Thu, 03/05/2018 - 13:54
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Keep
I think he is a good team player and with better players in the middle he would shine