West Ham United v Tottenham Hotspur Team Sheets

West Ham. Hart.Fonte.. Reid. Ogbonna. Zabaleta. Kayoute. Noble. Cresswell. Antonio. Hernandez. Arnautovitc. Subs . Carroll. Adrian. Sakho. Ayew. Byram. Masuaku. Rice

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asheshammer's picture

Full build up and everything. Course the reason is that the sports team are creaming themselves over how slick Spurs are and Harry Kane. Let's show 'em, lads. I've read more than enough about how this is our cup match. It's a new season, and we've looked a lot better the last couple of matches. COYI

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moore 6 legend's picture

Come on you mighty hammers, Let's stuff em like a Thanksgiving Turkey.

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COYI!

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Dicks is the man's picture

have we beaten them yet?

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albyforeverirons.'s picture

and show them the door.

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moore 6 legend's picture

unlucky elbow good move that

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moore 6 legend's picture

Big mick has pulled up FFS!

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albyforeverirons.'s picture

Carroll on, bugger.

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albyforeverirons.'s picture

Kane again, we need to lift now mind you we have been holding them till then.

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metbobby1's picture

a poor pass leads to a goal!!!!!!!

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Dicks is the man's picture

balls.

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metbobby1's picture

another tanking on the cards.

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First half an hour the better side, Kouyate's mistake (poor pass from Carroll) and we're one down - We really have to concentrate better after conceding a lead, typically that where the second goal comes from.
Gutted for Antonio, ruined our shape..... We need to score early, if we do they'll shit themselves - COYI!

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burkie's picture

One player shouldn't make that much difference the minute Ant went so did our shape

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La Vida Hammer's picture

And no yellows

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moore 6 legend's picture

Yes chicha get's one back COYI

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moore 6 legend's picture

auirer been sent off scum down to 10 now let's get at em

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mcbikeman's picture

the team and arnautovic in particular just did not seem up for it...his body language alone from the start was very poor

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mcbikeman's picture

the team look disorganised and uninterested...only chicarito really looked at it...spuds down to 10 men we huffed a bit but clearly there seems a lack of urgency and motivation.

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mcbikeman's picture

kouyatteeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

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albyforeverirons.'s picture

but it looks like the team haven't given up.

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mcbikeman's picture

At the death but truth is we did not play well we did not play with a good tempo and when your chasing a game its to late

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Dicks is the man's picture

nope. not impressed.

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Bloody hell.
We lost Antonio after a half an hour when we were on top, we lost our shape (that we've obviously been working on all week) and conceded two cheap goals.
We fought back and were unlucky not to get at least one penalty and it's all Bilic's fault (!).
The fella can't win can he?
He starts with Chicarito centrally from the start (which it what the majority wanted), and yet the manager is still to blame.
I'm too old I think, can't believe what I'm hearing - I'm watching something different and I think it's time to call time on this site, I've had a tit full. I don't recognise any humour or common sense anymore.

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asheshammer's picture

I thought Bilic started with the right strategy, and I thought we actually looked the better of the two teams for 30 minutes. Antonio gave us balance and it meant that Arnautovic could get open on the left. I thought we had a good shout for a penalty when he was dragged down in the box, but the commentators didn't make anything of it. And with Chick Pea in cetnre forward, I felt we would score. Then we lose Antonio and we started to go to pieces. I think their first goal cam from offside, however. At least it was no different from several offsides given against us earlier. Carroll had a poor game, I thought, and was at fault for the first goal and part fault for the second. He never was a threat offensively. Chicha's goal was great and so was Kouyate's. Masuaku infuriates me one minute, then gets to the by line an puts in a great cross the next. Bit of a show-boater, though. Zabs, I thought, was excellent all day. Noble held his own. Not angry at Bilic over this one. I just wish that West Ham would get half the luck that other teams seem to get around us. Next four matches are crucial. COYI.

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Bilic had it down until Antonio went off true, what happened after that though is totally his fault. You can't just judge a performance based on getting 2 goals back, questions should be asked as to why we went 3-0 down in the first place which was down to Bilic bringing on the wrong player for Antonio which at the time of it happening every single person on social media saw what was gonna happen and it did. Bringing Carroll on lost us the game plain and simple

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Dicks is the man's picture

where do you read 'all this bilic fault stuff'? cant see it myself

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asheshammer's picture

Just saw what Irons 65 posted. Sorry if I misjudged the rest! I felt West Ham didn't deserve to lose that match. Nor did we quite deserve to win. A draw would have been the fairest outcome, but lady luck didn't favour us.

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Dicks is the man's picture

my question was to irons lol. it somehow came under your post tho. for me our central mid looked very poor, just not good enough. I also have an issue with our defending as a team

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Koeman for Bilic, Redknapp would sort this side out etc etc....Bilic is far from perfect I know, but do you really believe this?
As for defending we were doing well up until the errors that cost us the first goal.
Concentration went for the second goal, cost us dearly.
We played Spurs who are (like it or not) far better than us - We were missing any creativity again with Lanzini being out for starters - You can only work with the tools you've got at your disposal.
They have players better than us in every position like it or not - Any chance of getting a result went belly up as soon as Antonio pulled up.
In my opinion, the board should shoulder the majority of the blame, Bilic for all his tactical mistakes has been hung out to dry by Mr Sullivan and co - Carvalho would've filled in a hole we are missing so badly.
The sooner they sell up the better.

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Dicks is the man's picture

oh I see. its a culmination of all previous comments? in that case you are making a lot of excuses there. tools? who bought them? lanzini is out? so we are no good without him? I agree the owners are clueless but can you say from the first 5 games bilic has done a good job? and was it good last season? is he earning his 3 mill a year? its results that count and we are not getting them

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Fair enough, but who would you employ instead of Bilic with this lot in charge eh?
A woman on our board who went public stating that she hopes Spurs win the fucking league??
That's the lot that runs our football club...Totally grim.

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burkie's picture

Its seems to be a genetic thing at west ham ,we allways have 2 maybe 3 players not up to scratch ,he couldnt wait to shift chic pea out wide again to make way for his beloved Carroll who does more arguing the toss with refs than play football ,we have one of the best poechers in the game and we cant seem to utilise him we seem to spend 2/ 3rds of the season saying "when will Carroll be back "and when he does get back he offers nowt ,that type of football went out with the cold war ,a team that mould s itself on a big bulldozer of a C F knocking down scraps

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Dicks is the man's picture

still believe they can work as a 2. arnautovic looks all showboat drama and no end product.

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burkie's picture

Couldnt agree more ,head down and go

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Haven't seen it yet but listened on the radio. Sounded uninspiring apart from a couple of moves. Must admit when Carroll came on I yawned! There is only 1 person more predictable than Carroll and that's bilic. Who is gonna see Carroll is Stone Age sakho is new age? Carroll always will be a one trick pony. Never beats a man, very little speed and never stretches the play or gets behind the defence. And now we can't even cross the ball to him!

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Dicks is the man's picture

imo its harsh saying that about carroll. as you allude to a striker has to have service. antonio off, there was no service for the player you bring on. made no sense to stick to same formation and push chico wide. its lose lose. carroll gets no crosses chico gets few box chances.

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asheshammer's picture

Groucho central + Chico out wide = Lose Lose. Everyone should have taken note on our first goal that it was scored EXACTLY the way Chicharito scores. And he'll score a lot that way, so moving him wide is taking him out of the game. I also agree with your earlier comment that we were poor in central midfield. I think Noble and Kouyate put in an effort (and K's goal was great), but Tottenham have better midfield players than we do. Carvalho would have made all the difference. Intersting question whether bringing on Sakho instead of Carroll would have worked. Sak can't cross, but his pace allows him to get in behind, and he's good with his head. Carroll can be excellent with his head, but the one good cross in to him he did nothing with. I don't think AC had a good game at all. Still think Zabs was our best player, which is kinda sad when you know he's 30 something. Tracked back well all day, got into good forward positions. Made himself available wide -- all the way to touch -- and so stretched the Spurs defence. Good crosses and passes. Most of our set piece deliveries were absolute shite.

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Dartford Bhoy's picture

That before Antonio had to come off we were holding our own against a top 6 team? And lots of you feel that the treatment on Bilic is a bit harsh given that we had a reasonable start to the game and I would have to agree. However, given the balance of the side at that point why in the hell do you then introduce Andy Carroll? For me its a clear as day that Sakho or Ayew should have replaced him and for that I blame Bilic. Dont get me wrong, Im a massive fan of AC and maybe with 20 minutes to go just to shake things up AC is your man. I was at the game and just felt let down... again, that said it wasnt the usual West Ham capitulation seen all too often last season.

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burkie's picture

I wouldnt have any of the three of them at the club ,even when he is fit Carroll scoring rate is hopeless ,when hes good hes not to bad but when hes bad hes dreadfull ,bad tempered and forever grousing at the ref ,Sac he had a very good partnership two years ago ,himself and Valencia struck up a good understandin but since that nothing ,and as for Ayew he doesnt come anywhere near the standard required for the prem ,same goes for Elbows ,one more thing Masu has to be given a place outstanding when he came on

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Dartford Bhoy's picture

dont get me wrong Im far fom a fan of either Ayew or Snakeo but that was what Bilic had on the bench

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metbobby1's picture

Let me have my threepenerths worth (for all of you more mature fans!).
If you include Carroll’s medical bills, he must be the biggest waste of money we’ve ever spent in a long time, for the return that we’ve had.
Closely followed by Ayew.....what return have we had from the £20m pound we paid for him???
Also, Bilic was praising Sakho for his renewed commitment to the club, telling us how hard he trains.
He scores against Bolton on Tuesday night.....so what does he do?
Drops him to the bench and doesn’t bring him on as a sub for Antonio.
No wonder he f****d off!

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asheshammer's picture

But to give Bilic a break here, he was probably already facing unrest for dropping Carroll to the bench. That was the right move, but it would have been hard to make the even more right move of bringing Sakho on when Antonio got injured. And Sakho is no winger, so that might not have worked, and if it hadn't, he'd be even more blamed than now.

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I'm sorry ashes, I know you talk sense but it's bilics job to make just those tough calls so I can't give him a break. If not what's the point in him? Tbh sakho off the pitch has been a bit of an arse but on it he has never been left wanting in my opinion. On the field it looks like bilic has made it too personal and won't give him the time he should be getting. Makes me wonder if he plays or doesn't play players on a like or dislike basis. The Carroll substitution reeks of someone who DIDNT want to drop him and had already decided he was coming on even before the game STRTED.

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This is genuinely why im not angry at Sakho, i dont agree with what he did, but in my opinion Bilics management of him in particular has been absolutely dreadful.

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moore 6 legend's picture

I think the tottscum got lucky on the big calls,3 penalty decisions we never got one,timing of big micks injury also when we were on top,glad jutjaw never took home the match ball anyway..

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asheshammer's picture

So many times the favourite teams get the breaks. The failure to call offside on their first goal was atrocious after we got called several times for inches offside (if at all).

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There first goal wasnt offside? And the only penalty call that had any substance in it was the Arnie one

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asheshammer's picture

Kane was definitely offside when that play emerged; the other player it was difficult to tell from replay angle, but certainly it was close, and could have been called. Kane, anyway, in my opinion, was involved in the play and the offside should have been called. I'm not even sure he ever came back onside in time to legitimately score the goal. My point is just that we didn't get the benefit of close calls with offside and they did. When you say "the only penalty call ... was the Arnie one" -- well, one is enough for me. If we had been 1-0 to the good after that, different story to the match. Clearly there was shirt pulling on that one, and Arnie, to his credit, tried to stay on his feet.

Another think that bothered the hell out me was Spurs player, late in game, cynical foul, then held ball to waste time, then chucked ball away to waste more time. No card. If they are supposed to be contenders that's a sh*t way to play the game.

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moore 6 legend's picture

The push in the back on carroll,that would have given us a point out the game,i bet jutjaw would have got that call

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