first knee jerk reaction of the season

Sack Bilic

hammergirl's picture

we were simply not good enough today...the team slav put out had me worried..upfront looked ok but midfield was clearly not going to be strong enough with players out etc, obiang had a mare our defence basically gave up the ghost after the 2nd goal went in....we wont be facing teams like this every week but clearly the need for decent midfielder is there and sadly obiang or noble are going to have to make way....if we lose heavy next weekend then ye I do believe the pressure would be on the manager big time...just hope he does not rush back players to early and they then become long term injuries like carroll and sak...I would make a point though that the 4th goal in particular was bad it was not even in the corner and hart seemed to dive over it!

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La Vida Hammer's picture

we had nothing in midfield, all three were useless, if you have a decent mid the defence is not under so much pressure. Very disappointed, again we lacked fitness, 11 fit men could have prevented 4 0

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Dicks is the man's picture

4-0. for me, its just not good enough at all. people are making excuses about man u being the greatest team in the league. they aren't. we had key players out, i.e. lanzini and antonio….so why do we persist with the same line up? we shouldve had more in the middle to be more combative. burnley went to stamford bridge and did just that. Bilic just never learns. what was the game plan? to sit back and pray? I'm really tired now of this acceptance against the likes of man u, arsenal, citeh etc….we can expect more of the same against that lot plus spurs and everton i guess because we're just doing the same thing over and over…that is playing teams at their own game with lesser players. ffs I'm fed up and its the first game. at half time i felt like slapping some sense into bilic but he sends them out the same, doing the same thing….then its 2-0 and he makes the change, sakho on. he may have enjoyed his chit chat with mourinho on the sidelines but i'd have preferred it if he concentrated on doing something about the lukaku welcome to greatness procession. absolutely furious with that crap.

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mcbikeman's picture

and i hope he realises chicharito is going to need a striker to play alongside him...one upfront wont cut it..but that would mean the dreaded 442 oh no who will i drop...the bloody lot of em mate....we just capitulated from the 2nd goal onwards there seems no pride in the shirt and so what if we lose 4-0...we got mullered more times than any of us care to rmbr last season and wow here we go again..like i said in another posting if you have a go and lose thats football but to just set up to keep things tight and hope for a draw well your playing russian roulette with a team like that..manure are not the finished article yes they are a good team but win the prem not this season we just made them look fantastic....i wonder if any of our defenders had ever heard of this lukaku bloke? and not gonna blame hart for 3 of the goals but come on the 4th was nearly in the middle of the net and he dived over it!..well we are bottom not adrift yet but play like that in the next 3 games and my tongue in cheek headliner could be a reality for bilic

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Dicks is the man's picture

at,least try something right? this obsession with 4-2-3-1 is what big clubs think is the 'in' thing. yet why do we use it against them? how do we expect that to work with a weaker side? looking at what we had available id have gone back 5 with an extra cb on lukaku or 4-4-1-1 with arnautovic behind hernandez and cresswell on left mid, fernandes right mid and really stifle mata etc. tell arnautovicv to press pogba into mistakes. like do something with some initiative. tbh rather have dyche in dug out. his side may be pants but he organises them tactically.

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mcbikeman's picture

to try anything different..we suffered badly last season because of it he has kept the same coaching team and we have learned nothing..all the points you put forward are very valid but he was more intent in chatting with moanrino than doing his job...be friendly after the match not before or during it..quietly i reckon the board will be happy and like i said before i am in no doubt should benitez walk bilic will be gone and he will be given the job if he wants it of course

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moore 6 legend's picture

But can we afford benny mc,ashley is more cakeo than sully,and he can't back him

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What i find crazy is how much blame is being put on the players feet and much Bilic is getting away with. Everyone here knows my opinions on the man but id rather have Allardyce back.

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Is the lack of fight especially against the so called big clubs,we had it last season now again today.
Lets be honest if we had got a point today it would have been a result,we all knew in the back of our minds that a win was pretty improbable but at least roll the sleeves up & show some fight...yesterday Burnley,huddersfield & watford coming back to draw against the scouse,all showed incredible fight & togetherness that we just dont seem to have at the moment...i get its the first game of the season & all that but this team needs to gel together quick & fast,cos the knives will be out for slav if its the same next week & then its back to the drawing board for another manager to step in....

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hammergirl's picture

why was that self important dick with the mic doing going on about how lanzini would be suited for Liverpool WTF had that to do with the game unless he is of course on commission to make that deal! grrrr shut it mr tyler

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Dicks is the man's picture

i will restrain my comments about Martin A'hole Tyler……I will say only that someone should insert his microphone up his arse.

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North Bank Hammer's picture

I think he's an out and out front bottom.

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I'm gutted, I can barely speak, but why am I surprised? Maybe we were undercooked for the 2nd season in a row? I'd like to have my say on bilic but as I have said it regularly, I just don't have the enthusiasm anymore. Good job we went to contain them! It says far more about us than it does man u

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moore 6 legend's picture

Shoot Lukaku ;)

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mcbikeman's picture

need encouraging to do that!

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We will be lucky to stay up this season if Bilic is in charge all season. Hes literally no better then Avram Grant

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Shh Fred I was criticised when I suggested he was no better than uncle avram. If we don't pick up at least 3 points from our first 3 games after last season, he should do the honourable thing and walk.

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If anything mate, i could make a valid argument that Grant is the better manager..

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burkie's picture

Part of the consequences of a performance like that against the media's darlings is having to listen to that bollox Tyler and the plebs on motd ,watched it tonight and afterwards in the analysis we wernt even mentioned ,not even "Jesus but they were bad "it was all how great united were and how many points they were goin to win the prem by

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moore2come's picture

Haven't seen the game or lowlights yet, but as soon as I saw the scoreline the first question that entered my head, was, will we ever go through a season without conceding 4 goals in at least one game? Humiliating start to the season, bottom of the table and from the articles I've read, not even at the races. Obviously kicking off your season agst Manure away was unlikely to bear fruit but come on, some backbone maybe?

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North Bank Hammer's picture

A loss away to one of the regular top six teams isn't an outright surprise. I haven't see the game so I'll not say anything about what we should have done but I am very disappointed in how we went from 2-0 down with a few minutes to go to 4-0 at the final whistle. This just isn't good enough to capitulate in this way. Over the summer I've read about how we'll be in the battle for a European place, something I've looked at and not entirely bought into but I've been looking forward to a considerably better season than the last. A complete turnaround in the quality of out defence and keep the ball out of our area/net type spirit needs to happen quickly, not close to Christmas (or later) or I'll be happy to join the title of this thread. No more last season lackadaisical, manyana, "we'll be alright if we could sort these injuries out" type of sh1t just get it sorted out.

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Dartford Bhoy's picture

with the first three games away from home this will be a very difficult season. We have passengers in the team, Fernandes and Noble to name two and great move bringing on sulky Sakho. Bright sports were the new signings, thought they all looked ok and Rice is the future. Yesterday in short was a shambles and I not prepared to hear from anyone excuses about it was Man United...., what did you expect particularly those who said the same when we where humiliated by City in Iceland

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asheshammer's picture

Agree with so many of you on here. Clearly West Ham United were not prepared for this match, and did not have an adequate strategy for it either. That's coaching and managing. Zabaleta wasn't the worst of our players, but it's clear he cannot cope with gazelles. That's one worry. Midfield: Obiang was awful. Wasn't there an Italian team ready to spend more than £10M for him? Hmmmm, I'd bite their hand off right now. Noble, sadly, is in the twilight of his career. I feel sorry the the guy, because he never really kicked on to that extra level. Chicharito will get unsettled VERY quickly if we continue to play like this. But the bottom line is the manager -- even with players out, we had a team no worse (on paper) than a Watford or a Burnley; on paper probably a good deal better. But our manager and coaches did not have a competitive game plan, nor did they have the skills of the team up to any sort of EPL standard. Arnautovic's crosses were pathetic. He's better than that; it's up to the managers and coaches to bring out the best. Masuaku also had a mare. For me, it's enough to show that Bilic is not a Premier League manager.

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gutted,bilic should walk,but who to replace him

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