Stoke what to do

So after a couple of fine displays by us against two of our local rivals what are we going to do against stoke? certainly it is as big a game as the last two maybe even more so as they are down and around us...for sure we cannot afford to lose this game but i wonder how much those last games have taken out of the players....with not to much depth to play with i do think moyes needs to tweak the side a little purely on the fitness side not anything to do with player performances...i am pretty sure the shape will stay the same and with the stoke side being under a lot of pressure themselves getting the right personnel out on the pitch is going to be essential for us to get the win we are capable of....Elbows played well the last couple of matches but you saw last night for a few seconds he wanted to make something out of nothing with the young arsenal defender fortunately he snapped out of it quickly but he is going to have to be careful going up against his old side and no doubt the home crowd winding him up and moyes is going to have to be all over that and get home to him the best way to react is to play the game and win...not sure if moyes would start chicarito from the start as i doubt he will track back like Antonio and elbows have been doing in the last few matches and carroll is certainly not one to be starting....it will be interesting to see how moyes is going to go about this game but going back just a few weeks i think we are all a lot more optomistic now.

Dicks is the man's picture

this is a big one. if we beat stoke we climb out of the dreaded zone and push stoke into it possibly. we must massacre them.

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Dartford Bhoy's picture

I would have Elbows on the bench, he left Stoke under a cloud and their fans will give him pelters. Bring him on with 15 on the clock. I would stick to the Moyes / Allardyce formulation, park the bus and hit them on the break but push the midfield line a tad higher than the Chelsea Arsenal game. Start with both Ayew and Little Pea, both have pace that will make Shawcross etc look pedestrian :o)

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moore 6 legend's picture

This is a proper squeaky bum game,more nervous now than before, We need to turn up against the teams around us, it's all well and good playing well against the so -called top teams, but this is where we must get our rewards,who's gonna be marking crouch,do we have a cheery picker handy,lol

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Crouch the lanky git is always a handfull...this will be a tough game at their place,they are fighting for their lives,but in moyesy we trust (blimey i wouldnt have said that a few weeks ago) & the pressure will all be on hughesys mob!!

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burkie's picture

He'll play Carroll from the start to cancel out Crouch ,forcast an ultra boring nil all draw

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La Vida Hammer's picture

you have to give him and his back room boys credit, I for one was not looking forward to him coming, felt better when SP came along with him, but hay, what a performance. could not fault any of them. OK some were not as good as last time out but they are only human. For me Ogbonna was MOTM and he never looked like given away a penalty, SP must have got hold of him. Over all we had better chances than them and could have come away with all 3 points. As everyone one has pointed out we need another on Saturday

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La Vida Hammer's picture

I think the team is playing so much better than before and we have to keep this up until we are dead!

Angelo Ogbonna

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moore 6 legend's picture

I am very disappointed with that attitude, it is much much more important than that ;)

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Do you think thats why the team has improved?moyesy & in particular psycho have put out contracts on all the players!!

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moore 6 legend's picture

Nice 1 dave lol, I did hear De Niro payed em a visit,team work ;)

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cast iron's picture

See that we will be without Winston Reed so what should we do?? Fetch in Declan rice or even Koyate put Noble in the back4 and bring Fernandez into midfield Gonna be a real melon scratcher while our defence has played this last 3 games what do you lot think Moyes will do with this problem

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Dicks is the man's picture

noble in back 4?? lol. I think we've been playing a back 5. so obvious choice would be rice to slot in imo

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burkie's picture

Agreed ,Noble is going through a resurgence in form what the fuck is going on with Martinez ,he made the bench for a few games but seems to have dropped off the radar

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burkie's picture

Agreed ,Noble is going through a resurgence in form what the fuck is going on with Martinez ,he made the bench for a few games but seems to have dropped off the radar

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Calm down Burkie, I'd say Martinez has dropped off the bench purely because we were overstocked with forwards on there. we had Carroll, Hernandez and sakho involved. We only really need 2 strikers on our bench at any one time, and I'm sure they are all above an untried youngster ATM. At least 1 will leave in January so I expect he may become a bit involved again at times.

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Dicks is the man's picture

i agree, he's not going to get ahead of carroll, hernandez, sakho or even ayew. moyes is sorting the team out, but i can't see him putting a youngster ahead of those apart from maybe in the league cup.

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If he is up to speed i would start him against stoke,always gives 100%

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asheshammer's picture

He is solid as a rock.

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moore 6 legend's picture

He'd run though a brick wall our ginge,and come out fighting the other side.

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hammergirl's picture

seems like a nice guy...loved his answer when asked if he was not a pro footballer what would he be? a virgin he said lol...still I think we will be confident and I see a sneaky second half winner from chicarito getting us the points

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asheshammer's picture

You could see how disappointed Chicharito was at just missing the winner. So close! He'll be fired up to score, there's no doubt about that.

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Yep glad to see people realise this is a big one as big as the others. A win can catapult us out. Also right to worry how much we have in the tank. I expect Moyes to play the first 20 mins the same way, so Stoke don't get the crowd behind them. Then we have to look at doing more going forward. If ginge is ready then he should play IMO. He eats crouch for breakfast. I'd risk arnie and keep a close eye on his attitude, he is just as likely to get sent off in this one or show the Stoke faithful what they are missing. Play him but spell it out to him in no uncertain terms. I expect more or less the same team just maybe 2 enforced or tactical changes. Be interesting to see how Moyes calls it. ATM sitting back has been the right thing but against lesser sides Moyes has to come up with away of getting a good balance defensively and attackingly

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moore 6 legend's picture

Stoke City manager Mark Hughes: "I don't do relegation. I've never been relegated because I'm too busy trying to get in top 10s."I've never been near it so I'm not going to start now, am I?
What a Arrogant f*cker,please west ham go there and batter em FFS!

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Dicks is the man's picture

did he forget QPR? lol he got sacked but had practically relegated them.

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moore 6 legend's picture

Yeah your right dicksy

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Neil Warnock had more to do with them going down then Mark Hughes did.

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Dicks is the man's picture

no he didnt. warnock was in charge season before. hughes spent a massive amount in season they went down under redknapp

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moore 6 legend's picture

Absolutley right,he kept qpr up by the skin of his teeth,after taking over from warnsock,only the Bolton result stopped him going down,then as you say,he bought a load of duds,just 4pts from 12 games,and bottom of the prem,when he got sacked,and hughs reckons he's never been near it.lol

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