Saw a piece on the BBC site today about Moyes having other offers. I think he's trying to get out ahead of the game. What he basically said was that he wants to be managing a team that is challenging for Europe, NOT a team that is just trying to avoid relegation. To me, that's a warning shot across Sully's bow -- provide the investment to make West Ham competitive for 6th-8th place or forget about it. A good move, I think. The Board has to get serious about building a competitive side.
Meantime rumours are flying around that the Board are going to hand the reins to Manuel Pellegrini. A BAD move, I think. Pellegrini won the title with Man City, yes. But that's just the faux cred that Sully loves. (It's like velvet underwear.) If Pellegrini was any good he'd have a job with a world-class club. Instead he's making gazillions in China managing, ... who? ... Worse, the culture in China is that players actually RESPECT the manager. Can you see Pellegrini coming to West Ham, setting us up to avoid relegation, and putting up with prima donnas who only put in an effort every third match? Disaster awaits this move!!!
I like the ideas that have been floated by some of the orgers: Howe, Dyche, etc. I don't think they will come. (We should try like mad to lure Howe.) I'm prepared to be realistic and accept Moyes for another season, IF the investment is made. I don't want to see any more overage players signed either!
Your thoughts?
Dicks is the man
Thu, 10/05/2018 - 11:11
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Pelligrini would be a
Pelligrini would be a terrible choice. Not only is he as drab and boring as a corpse but he hasn't a clue about managing a difficult club in the prem. If he joins, mark my words he'll either be sacked in 6 months or we'll be relegated and perhaps both.
Essexhammer
Sat, 12/05/2018 - 21:28
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Got to disagree with you
Got to disagree with you Ashes & Dicksy,Pelligrini is a tactician of the calibre of Bielsa,puts our previous managers in the shade.
Fans would take to the Pelligrini style of playing two up front.His philosophy is if a team hasn't got the ball they can't score,so his teams play possession football....how refreshing will that be!!! His preferred set up is 4-2-2-2,but he's not inflexible. He doesn't use out and out wide players ,he leaves it to the players responsibility(defenders,midfielders and forwards) to take up wide positions when called for,so basically he allows his teams play with more freedom ,but his brand is basically attacking football.
https://www.coachesvoice.com/manuel-pellegrini/
Hammers65
Sat, 12/05/2018 - 20:09
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Thats ok if you have the calibre of players
That he had at citeh...he will want at least a 100 mill war chest to take over at westham,lets get real here that aint gonna happen as long as sullys got a hole in his jacksy!!
Dicks is the man
Sun, 13/05/2018 - 04:34
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better off keeping moyes.
better off keeping moyes. pelligrini will bring in a massive entourage, so out goes pearce and co. he will be paid double what moyes gets and he'll just quit in a few months when he realises he will get none of the players the board spoke of getting. can you see pelligrini managing a squad like ours effectively?
Red Neck Iron
Sun, 13/05/2018 - 11:09
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All a moot point Essex cause
All a moot point Essex cause it ain't gonna happen. Just read on teletext, we are interested in pelegrini, emery and da silva (Watford) now who on that list seems likely and who seems like pie in the sky? I'd say the first 2 might have been mentioned by the board even silva would be regarded as too risky by this board. They favour uninspiring and predictable managers like Sam, Moyes, Bruce and pullis. They salivate over managers like that.
Hammers65
Sun, 13/05/2018 - 12:54
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If the rumours are true...
Im surprised they are thinking about getting rid of moyes,he is right up their street!!Maybe moyes is the one calling the shots & they dont like it
asheshammer
Sun, 13/05/2018 - 18:12
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He did have a job at Manure once.
The heir apparent to Sir Alex Ferguson; hand-picked. The let-down of the post-Fergie depression continues even under Mourinho, so let's not be too quick to blame Moyes for the job there. Point is, he's used to better treatment and better investment than he'll get from the West Ham board. I wouldn't be surprised if he walked rather than be sacked. We could do better (I think all agree), but the big question is: will we do better? Will SUGO really, finally, do what is required to "take us to the next level"?
Dicks is the man
Sun, 13/05/2018 - 20:00
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if it comes down to moyes v
if it comes down to moyes v pelligrini then im taking moyes.
Essexhammer
Mon, 14/05/2018 - 17:51
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If they don't appoint a big
If they don't appoint a big name then they can expect more of the same from the fans,because I for one will join that chorus who want them out.We have been promised so much and received so little,fans deserve more .A big name manager with big money to spend shows intent ,but if it's more of the same another mediocre manager funded on piss poor funding ,then they will get everything they deserve next season.
Hammers65
Thu, 10/05/2018 - 12:32
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Totally agree
But doesn't surprise with this board,they will say pellegrini is a world class manager!!it will be a bloody disaster imo...im not moyes biggest fan but at least hes hinting to sugo ill stay but we need big investment...
mcbikeman
Thu, 10/05/2018 - 16:32
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£6million buyout clause
in Benitez contract surely Sullivan will do that after all he wastes that on rubbish second div French players and even more on a championship player who is now up for sale......still I doubt Rafa will come as he would want assurances on money to spend before signing....
Dicks is the man
Thu, 10/05/2018 - 19:40
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I need to vin troffies. yes
I need to vin troffies. yes troffies.
Red Neck Iron
Sat, 12/05/2018 - 10:10
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Just read pelegrini has
Just read pelegrini has agreed a deal in principal. Wasn't that just like Rafa? Just saying. Not at all thinking yeah right, it's nothing to do with season tickets or even I've heard it all before. Just to make that clear.
asheshammer
Sat, 12/05/2018 - 13:22
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I really wouldn't be surprised.
Sully thinks you can turn a pig's ear into a silk purse just by osmosis. Pellegrini is not going to turn the team around without a HUGE amount of investment.
Dicks is the man
Sat, 12/05/2018 - 15:30
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good news is Sevilla are
good news is Sevilla are apparently interested in him, so we can be sure they will offer more money.
Red Neck Iron
Sun, 13/05/2018 - 13:56
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The best thing about having
The best thing about having those 3 in charge now is, the fact they have either got to shape up and toe the line or the pressure is just gona be ramped up more and more gradually. Everyone has their breaking points the stress both fans and media put them under is gona be close to intolerable. So if they maintain their status quo we should put Sullivan and co on "board watch". Watch them as they individually deteriate in their health then ask them if the money was an even trade off?
Red Neck Iron
Sun, 13/05/2018 - 14:00
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Hang your head in shame Moyes
Hang your head in shame Moyes, for me he has just made a sackable offence. He has stated since he has been at the club no one can question the effort from the players.
Dicks is the man
Sun, 13/05/2018 - 15:09
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to be fair to moyes, he says
to be fair to moyes, he says he wants to stay but only if the board give him players he needs. probably means they'll get rid. Sugo prob felt ill at the prospect of spending big.
Red Neck Iron
Sun, 13/05/2018 - 21:38
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I could quite understand
I could quite understand Moyes leaving on his own accord. Tbh I doubt he could do better under this board, so to leave on a positive should improve his stock again. He was walking a tightrope when he joined but got to the other end. If he stayed his career under these bozos would finally be destroyed.
asheshammer
Mon, 14/05/2018 - 22:03
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Fonseca?
Could be exciting, could be a huge gamble. Has he really any better credentials than SB had? What worries me with any managerial replacement right now is, "how is a new manager going to use Arnautovic?" SB wasn't getting much out of him. Moyes did. That is saying something, at least. Admittedly cautious about this change, but whoever comes in has to get the best out of Arnie or we're toast. Also: someone like Fonseca doesn't know much about our Board -- just wait till they find out!
Dicks is the man
Mon, 14/05/2018 - 23:43
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I'm beginning to think Moyes
I'm beginning to think Moyes is probably best of whats on offer. Benitez perhaps, but some of the names being mentioned like Pelligrini, Fonseca etc whether true or not would be a mistake imo. the thing at least with moyes as you say he's got the best out of Arnautovic and does by all accounts have a 'longer term' appeal than some of these others that will be here a year tops. if the board actually give him some money to spend, and he spends it well, it could be win win. those are big 'ifs' though…but tbh are the board going to give anyone big money? if they said that Howe was coming in and he's being given 200 mill to spend, or Silva (he does buy well) then maybe id buy into it and believe we can go top 8 or higher. but the reality is we're a poor man's 'big' club restricted by a miserly board. having said that about arnautovic, lets not forget moyes got the worst out of chickpea.
asheshammer
Tue, 15/05/2018 - 01:46
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Big "ifs" for sure
You're right that Moyes did NOT get much out of chickpea. But then we have Arnautovic in his prime, with Chickpea in his fading years. I know who I would put more effort into for the coming seasons. (That said, I think Chickpea has goals in his locker if used correctly.) Your point about some of the managers in the frame being "one and done" is a good one: if they fail, they will be sacked; if they succeed, they will go on to bigger and better clubs. UNLESS, of course, the board invest big, and that is the reason Moyes himself got cold feet. He's in a good position, if you ask me: he did what he was asked at West Ham. There are clubs that will want him, possibly even Everton!
Hammers65
Tue, 15/05/2018 - 07:15
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I agree...
Unless we can prize benitez away from ashley,but it would be like out of the frying pan into the fire for him!!i would stick with moyes for another season or 2,but give him decent money to work with....i get the impression from moyes interview after his contract ended that he is not fussed at all,he will get another job no problem now.i reckon that he has called the shots (wants total control,etc) to carry on & we all know the board dont like that!!
Dicks is the man
Tue, 15/05/2018 - 07:41
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Silva to Everton is the news…
Silva to Everton is the news….so….wait for it………you know who will be arriving at the L.S….
asheshammer
Tue, 15/05/2018 - 10:17
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Ha Ha brilliant
NOTHING would surprise me! But they are saying Fonseca is in pole position. The guy who dressed up as Zorro for his press conference.
Dicks is the man
Tue, 15/05/2018 - 11:08
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its silly season - arteta to
its silly season - arteta to be arsenal manager, poch to chelsea and fonseca to west ham. it'll all end in tears.
Deluded Hammer
Tue, 15/05/2018 - 18:56
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No-one
Seems to think Stuart Pearce could do it surprisingly. Not saying he's my choice but....
Dicks is the man
Tue, 15/05/2018 - 19:00
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but why would you get rid of
but why would you get rid of Moyes and then appoint Pearce? that makes no sense to me at all.
Deluded Hammer
Tue, 15/05/2018 - 19:18
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I'm not getting rid of Moyes
The board are. Personally, I think Moyes is walking after telling the board a few home truths they didn't want to hear
Dicks is the man
Tue, 15/05/2018 - 19:26
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yes i believe you are right.
yes i believe you are right. i think he wanted guarantees of players, and worrying he didnt get them…bodes badly for whoever is next.
asheshammer
Tue, 15/05/2018 - 22:55
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Agree with that.
And now we'll get the three ring manager interview circus dragging on: "Unai Emery? OH, missed him by THAT much!", "Rafa Benitez? He had just picked up the phone when Newcastle made him an offer he couldn't refuse!", "Oh, and by the way, Moyes is still in the running ... whoops, got away!" And we will end up with who knows who or you know who, -- someone who doesn't know the team, or have any idea of an IDENTITY, then the world cup, then the transfer sagas and ... Hey, but you know this story.