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I'm not impressed.
I've not seen any evidence that we are seeing any improvement on Moyes or Loppy.
He focuses on defence, 5 / 6 across the back and not getting a battering. Just one nil down we are in theory still in the game but statistically with so few shots on target this strategy will never work.
11 games in charge, still his best football was his first against Villa in the cup but that's because some of the players were still in Loppy mode, prepared to venture forward.
I feel a lot of WH fans are upset with the quality of football, selection and decision making on substitutions etc is appalling. That said I also feel that is kind of off side to criticise him, its the elephant in the room, the board have made another hopeless appointment and they, and we, are just HOPING it will come good.
Fact : At Brighton he had a 12 month period of just 5 home wins and the board are worried about season ticket sales. Looking at home performances who would wonder?
just to be clear, hes a nice guy and I dont blame him, the blame is with the Board recruitment which is franking shocking. For as long as Sullivan is in control we are always going to be left behind the likes of Villa, Bournemouth, Brentford, Palace etc etc
Probably a bit early
To say Potter out as he is trying to fix things with someone else's toolbox but not unfair to admit that he was the wrong choice in the first place. We are right now in a very similar scenario to his short term at Chelsea and I defy anyone to state that his toolbox there was worse than this one here.
There is definitely no improvement on Moyesball, in fact probably fair to say we've taken a couple of steps back. Can't really comment on Loppy as he wasn't here long enough although it did look troublesome. To really judge Potter he neds his own toolbox to play with and here we have to step back and look at his term at Brighton. Which was never exciting, bordering on a regular midtable yawnfest and it puzzles me how he even has fans here on the org. I'm not even going to go into his spells in the Mickey Mouse Swedish League and he also has a poor track record as a player.
I have to take to task the statement about the board making a hopeless appointment as it is my understanding that Sullivan didn't want him and it was Brady who worked the deal because of her Costa Coffee ( or was it Starbucks) morning chats with Potters wife who just wanted himout of the house. Because lets be honest here, he wasn't exactly flooded with managerial offers was he? Even Moyes (somehow) got re-employed quicker than him.
To sum up, yes, I'd like him gone (never wanted him as is well known) but relegation apart , and it's far from being a foregone conclusion, he's here to stay So lets get the strongest caffeine down our throats and buckle up for next seasons scintillating football :D
toolbox
Its a good expression and maybe its correct but for me a footballer at this level should be able to adapt. Whats for sure is the current toolbox is lacking pace and talent in most positions none more so than the midfield slug pairing of JWP and Slowczech.
We will have to differ on the appointment of Potter, not convinced that Lady B would have more say in the business than a share holder.
I think we are both on the same page, he wasnt our first choice and will never meet the demands for the job.
I once worked for a brutal American who got the top job in the company by telling the board he will make mistakes but... will quickly rectify or manage the situation. Basically if he recruited a Lemon they were history pretty quickly and Sullivan has reputation for hanging onto Lemons for too long.
I'm not sure about the fans
I'm not sure about the fans in general but I've got no doubt some on here wanted an English manager ,they seemed sick to death of the Deagos, oh well ,Xenophobia raising its ugly head again.
Not me Burkie
New manager could come from another plant so long as he served up good football.
To early for me Dartford
He is not the manager i wanted but because of the chaotic way our club is run he is the one we got because there was nobody else.
Silva was the manager i wanted and we should of got and by all accounts he was the one Sullivan wanted and lined up to replace Moyes but nope he stuck with Moyes and now i fear we have missed the chance.
Spuds will be looking for a new manager this summer i do not doubt and Silva Areola Franks will be three on there shopping list and so because of the way we go about doing things we will miss out on three very capable managers there.
But my main reason for keeping Potter is the fact the club will mess about sorting out a replacement who if/when a decision made will need time to Evaluate the squad as to there own preferences on who is in and out and so the time will grow shorter and shorter to make decisions in the transfer market and we will end up with the runts and cast offs and be no better off than we were or more likely worse off.
So if you want him or not i feel it would not be in the clubs interest to get shot of him this early into his tenure but this is football and things happen quick if the results keep coming as they are and who are we the fans to second guess what goes on in that Dwarfs mind best leave that to Silkman and co they no how to manipulate all to well.
agree with a lot of that Mc
I think we are on the same page regarding Sullivan and basically lack of decisiveness in dealing with Moyes.
I think you are also not satisfied with Potter and the questionable reason for keeping him "will mess about sorting out a replacement" is not a good enough for me. When something is failing you have to act. So you sack or back him. They chose to back Loppy in the window and that was a disaster........ Lets see, maybe ol Silky has another candidate up his sleeve but I wouldn't count on it!!
Well I'm obviously in the
Well I'm obviously in the minority here. I still think Potter was the right appointment. He has had a monumental task sorting out the defence. Now we are only shipping one goal a game. But it's true the attacking and free flowing side of the team is not firing.
I've said previously. It's the situation the team is in. Not going down, not going to qualify for Europe. So Potter has had a free hit to tinker with his starting 11. Hindered in not to be underestimated terms of defensive chaos.
He must only be judged come the new season start!!
He will have the Summer to recruit his players to build his team. No Manager can expect to come in mid season and get instant results. Especially with an inherited team of misfits. Scrambled together by a below par with no clear plan predecessor.
It's obvious there are big egos in the squad. None bigger than Kudus and Pacqueta. I do not expect either to be here next season. Kudus is unplayable on his A game, but he does not want to be here, that much is obvious. He wants top 4 and Champions League, so let him go and get some cash back.
I believe Potter is the man for us he has the required skills to make us a good side, consistent, compact and effective. If I end up being proved wrong. Fair enough I'll hold my hands up, but how on earth he can be judged this early is not computing for me.
The season has gone. Unfortunately the stagnant effect it is having is not Potters fault. Yes we are treading water. But it will improve greatly. I genuinely believe that. We'll see.....
Not much wrong with any of your points Boogers
And look at Palace had they listened to the fans and got shot of Glassner after there dreadful start to the season well would they be where they are now? sometimes you have to stick and hope because sacking him means more money out the door for him and his staff we are still paying Loppy and his mob and then find money for another manager and his team and transfer funds on top...Don't see it happening.
Lets hope you are right Boogers
The board will keep him at least until Christmas.
The shipping of goals down to one a game is not genius tactics, he's playing five and sometimes with Alverez 6 across the back. This is creating a disconnect with the midfield and forwards hence we average low attempts on goal.
"How on earth he can be judged this early is not computing...?" He has had 11 games (now 12) and the style of football and decision making on selection and substitutions is pi55 poor. Had the Prem not had 3 worse teams we would on current form be playing in the chumps league next season.
For me, I have little confidence in the guy and that next season will be miraculously better.... but I still hope you are right!!!
For me it's too early. He is
For me it's too early. He is working with blunt tools. He needs to clear the dregs out. Unfortunately. I think we need a bigger re-build than last season. As much as Areola can produce superb saves. He has a tendancy to drop a bollock or two. So a new Number 1 is needed. Another Centre half to give competition to Kilman & Todibo. The whole midfield needs a overhaul. I would persevere with Fullkrug. A fit Fullkrug could be an asset. Somerville could play an important part.
We definitely have got away with it this year being 3 worse clubs than us. But are Tottenham, Everton & Man Utd any better?
In essence Dartford what I am
In essence Dartford what I am trying to say. Is Potter has inherited a somewhat shower of shit! From the previous incumbent. Who was a rebel without a clue. Could not communicate with his players and everything got lost in translation.
All I'm saying is judge him after he's built his own squad. If he turns out to be a clueless Klint I'll be the first to say it. But for now he has license to fiddle fart about even play Gladys the tea lady or Bert the bog cleaner if he wants.
Trust me with this tinkering period, on top of him shaping his team in the summer. If he doesn't get it right I'll want his bollocks on a plate!!!
Great post Boogers
Do hope Gladys gets a run out!
Given the squad is, as you say, a bag of shite then surely its an opportunity to blood the youngsters.
Definitely is Dartford, they
Definitely is Dartford, they must get some minutes for sure!
I don’t think it’s too early,
I don’t think it’s too early, the squad is decent and yes you can say they’re not his players but now he’s seen them play 14 games and trained them everyday he should have a good idea how to get the best from that squad, there’s been no difference to performances other than they’re not shipping so many goals, there’s been no new manager bounce whatsoever. Due to the lack of change in results if I was Sullivan I wouldn’t be trusting him with a big summer spending spree, really don’t think Potter is the right choice and as others have said Sullivan thought that too, I think a 6 month deal was sensible, he’s not got anything extra from the players than Lopetegui did.
Trust him with a spending spree lol
Come on chippy the only one not to trust in a spending spree is Sullivan and he's already made it clear he is in charge this summer...so expect the likes of Zinchenko and Callum Wilson to be coming through the door....Sadly we are witnessing the beginning of the end of our Tenure in the Prem and will sink without trace next season.
Look what Parker has done at
Look what Parker has done at Burnley ,was he even considered? I'm sure our 3 times player of the year would look favorable on a move ,or maybe not with the little fuck face in charge of the purse strings.
agree Burkie
One of our own, I would have also given him time rather than Potter, loppy etc
One of our own?
Really? Didn't he demand a transfer to Tottscum? If we're gonna go down I think DiCanio could make it an enjoyable experience.
Hammer of the year
3 times I think. Not sure the demand was for Spudz just to leave a sinking ship.
I saw DiCanio recently in Reading, one of those "an evening with" chat shows. He's still as mad as ever and one thing for sure......he would certainly take us down!
Yes, that's correct
He did win it three times, unbelievably in a row too, before jumping ship from a relegated club. He won more due to the poor quality of the rest of the squad in my humble opinion, a statement which carries some weight when you consider that it was a goalkeeper who was runner up on two of those occasions. I was never a fan of Parker, twirling and pirouetting in midfield like a ballerina and my highlighted memory of him is in one game he twirled so many times he lost his balance and nearly lost the ball, a last minute stab to a team mate bailing him out of more embarrassment. I might have money on Parker becoming the first Premier League manager to be sacked next season.
I think thats a bit unfair DH
Only player to get 3 HotY in a row and the keeper that came second was Rob Green who was the England keeper at the time. It was a travesty that he was never skipper, at the time Lucas Neil I think had the arm band. Scotty was also fondly remembered for an inspirational talk at half time when we were 3 nil down at WBA and salvaged a draw.
You should also remember that he turned down Spudz a year before and signed a 3 year contract which meant Spudz paid a lot more for him. He left when we were relegated and he had broken into the England set up, not anywhere near the Judas Scale of the likes of Defoe, Ince etc.
I get the "magic Roundabout" and recall FAREHAM Hammer (God we miss him on here... I hope he's ok) being pissed with him on that basis but its funny how you never appreciate a player until they have gone. I guess we will do the same with Paqueta and Kudus (heaven forbid Bowen) when they eventually depart :o(
Being the first Prem Manager sacked next season, you could be right but I think Burnley have a more pragmatic approach and I think the prat that is Potter will have some influence on that result!
West Ham were very lucky the
West Ham were very lucky the 3 that came up didn’t adapt, and I think Lopetegui would’ve have had a better points tally at the end of the season than Potter has.
I know it sounds stupid but
I know it sounds stupid but he's got no charisma, no enthusiasm, you never see him chasing up and down in his box shouting and bawling, nothing seems to get his dander up ,look at Pep,Arteta,Emery.bit like Postie at the scum .doesn't seem to give a flying fuck .
I know it sounds stupid but
I know it sounds stupid but he's got no charisma, no enthusiasm, you never see him chasing up and down in his box shouting and bawling, nothing seems to get his dander up ,look at Pep,Arteta,Emery.bit like Postie at the scum .doesn't seem to give a flying fuck .