I think the match commentator put it very well "this is how west ham have such a good record against the bigger clubs they up their game exactly what Watford are doing because they look on us as one of the big clubs and its a scalp to them ,"we were worse than poor today ,everything that could go wrong went wrong ,fact is it was bound to happen sooner or later what we must do now is put it behind us and learn from it ,that away record was unsustainable, all this defeat has done is bring us back down to earth the only people who will behappy tonight ,beside 's Warford fans are the motd team and big Sam

I must say the OS looked impressive last night under lights for the RWC 3rd place playoff between Argentina v South Africa...I'm looking forward to going to next Saturdays ( rugby league ) game between Eng v NZ. I can't see that game being a sell out but I think they will be a lot there...I'll up date you on what it was like next weekend..

predicts a 2-0 win for Watford.....cant even be bothered to read the reason why......

LADS

HAS ANYONE GOT A SPARE FOR WATFORD AWAY? DESPERATE TO GO TO THE GAME!!

CHEERS

IRONS IRONS IRONS

I have to say until today I have not been a big fan of either but the interview on the club web site has changed my mind. Love them or hate them they are West Ham fans through and through. They have a passion for the club and it comes through in bucket loads. David Sullivan gives a balanced view and even of his assessment of Allardyce is more than fair. He clearly has ambition for West Ham that BFS just never had unfortunately!

Just seen Carlton Cole has joined Celtic... http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/34603027 Always been a tryer with a good attitude and love for the club despite a low goals scoring record. I have always liked his character

so its coming round to the time of year where managers especially the foreign managers start to harp on about the need for a break over the festive season....just yesterday I had read that LVG was complaining about his players being tired and burnt out...so here we are the end of October 10games into the season and those poor pampered players are tired and fatigued....some of them have even had to travel into Europe and the poor dears must suffer in first class I mean how can you stretch your legs out up there....anyway the age old debate continues shall we have a two week break over Christmas or not.....I would simply say not because its tradition but if they ever get there way then I would put in place a ruling that forbids teams and players to play any kind of footy during the break this of course would stop the lucrative fixtures the money men would love and involve flying half a world away to play...and of course that is the real reason for wanting a break to increase a clubs commercial standing somewhere in the world.so you have a 2 week break then what players will of lost match fitness so need time to adjust again and what if it snows those two weeks off could turn into 4/5/6 weeks then you are either extending a season which is nigh on impossible with all the international comps that take place so you end up maybe playing 2/3 times a week and you will hear this is terrible our players cant take that lets cut the size of the league to 18 teams and so it starts again....if you don't want to play at Christmas go manage in one of the other leagues in Europe or do what Nolan used to get sent off the week before then that Christmas sorted!

how many times when watching a game(any level)have you said something to your friends only for seconds later the commentator/guest summariser to say word for word what you just did....never noticed that? give it a try next time you watch any sport its funny how often it happens I have a conspiracy theory that the living room or the bar at my local has a bugging device relaying these words so they can repeat them parrot like on the air! I have written to sky to point this out and that I would happily provide the commentary/summariser job for a much cheaper wage still waiting to hear back though lol

out here in the burbs of deepest darkest surrey( Epsom way chelski territory) I have yet to see the once prevelant species of the smuggessgittuschavis normally found wearing blue shirt and marching around the streets as if they owned them...but for some reason this species has become extinct around here and rumours of such sightings are thought now to be but a myth.....have they moved from there normal habitat? are they near you now or are they truly gone:-)

With a host of big clubs falling did we miss a good opportunity here?