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Now first thing for me to say here is I'm not a fan of the International stage. I pretty much stopped watching meaningless England games decades ago. However, I do watch some qualifiers of substance. Along with tournaments when we are in them.
Would I class myself as a fan? Probably not. But I am a very proud Englishman. When asked am I British? I always say no, I'm English. As a 60 year old Englishman I think I've earned the right to that opinion.
Now that we live in a world full of snowflakes and PC correctness. Something I openly admit to struggling with in society these days. The world is a crazy place as I see it.
Which leads me back on topic. Why have Nike with the backing of the FA tampered with the cross of St George? The cross of St George symbolises England as a nation. It has been on our football shirts for decades. But now some wet wipe at Nike has decided to change the colour. It's now red, blue and purple.
What the actual fvck is going on? How can this happen. Is it because we are supposed to be a diverse society? I'm sorry I'm a traditionalist. Would they mess with the Union Jack? No of course they would not. So what gives them the right to mess with the nations identity?
We are not the British football team. We are not Scotland, Wales or Ireland. We are England and we have an identity. That identity is the cross of St George.
Fvcking wet wipes boil my piss!!!!
Agree 100% with you Boogers.
Agree 100% with you Boogers. Can you imagine the outrage if Nike done something similar with for example the Turkish shirt. There would be riots. Anarchy would ensue.
I've posted something similar on my FB and can tell you it's a hot topic. Not one person has said anything good
Nike or the FA need to withdraw this shirt. Failing that. Fans should boycott it. Anyone who purchases it should be ashamed.
I feel the point but
The real issue here is the cost of the shirt... £125!!!!!
Or you could get a lesser shirt called the Stadium Shirt for a mere £85!!!
I guess the Stadium shirt comes already with tomato ketchup, burger juice, larger and kabab stains!
Could be worse
Could be f'ing rainbows
Thats the thing. It's the wet
Thats the thing. It's the wet wipe snowflake brigade at Nike. That have jumped on the minority PC bandwagon. Because football is no longer a mans game, but now reaches out so to speak to a wider audience. I have to be so careful here, which trust me, I don't find easy.
To make a statement of broad diversity, they have stopped short of the full George and Zippy package. So have come up with the blue, pink and purple bollox!
Yes DB the price is astronomical and more fool all the soppy bastards that pay for this bullshit!!!
Not sure the folk that buy
Not sure the folk that buy are "soppy bastards", I think pester power from the nippers to have one.
This political correctness haunts the western world. I have seen it here in Australia, a reluctance to celebrate Australia day and fly the flag instead giving into the folk that call it "Invasion Day" what a load of.....
Only in Trumpville is being proud of your nation acceptable... at least for the time being!
yes agree
leave our flag alone what next ..not allowed to fly the flag of St George on St Georges day ????
I've lived in Ireland now
I've lived in Ireland now for the vast majority of my 72 years ,for want of a more appropriate word I call myself a globalist , sure I firmly believe England should have no say in other nation's affairs ,let alone occupied it ,anyway that an argument for another day ,I was born and raised in Kent and I've got to say I never really had a sense of nationhood, of course the greatness of the British empire was banged into us at school ,never a word about her wrong doings in empire building .
Nationality is the key to wars ,when we first cqpame down from the trees the first thing we did was form borders and if someone else attempted to breach them then the inevitable happened, its exactly the same these days,reed Dr Alice Roberts " the incredable human journey " ,tells you all you need to know about our evolutionary past ,we occupie this tiny spec of dust in the unexplainably infinity of the universe , and yet it would appear the first thing we prioritise is our borders when in reality our borders consists of the circumference of our planet,the late professor Carl Sagen ,initiated " the pale blue dot" google it ,it's fascinating.
Cracking post Burkie!
Agree, never been a fan of nationalism probably due to having a foot in two camps, UK & Eire and having a love for both, never thought it was important to have exclusivity to one or the other. Mum was Irish and Dad an East London boy (hence a Hammer) loved them both equally and their homelands.
I feel more akin to being patriotic. Patriotism to a country as a whole, especially all its people (could be family). Nationalism feels more exclusive (which by the way means to exclude... never been a fan of that) one group of people over all others. I guess a bit like being Devout or Staunch and you will have heard both on your Island :o)
I will find The Incredible Human Journey hopefully on iPlayer!