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The boys of 86/35yrs later

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Submitted by mcbikeman on Mon, 02/08/2021 - 09:50

Know this is not a where are they now post this is a those who don't read history are doomed to repeat it.....and i have a terrible feeling that is what will happen to us this coming season.

Boys of 86 a great set of lads and a starting line up good enough for anyone in the league but get an injury and suddenly like a house of cards it all starts to collapse...so did the club build on what was the best season in living memory? we all no they didn't finished 15th the following season...season after that 16th followed by the inevitable relegation the next season....all because Cearns couldn't or wouldn't build on the progress made in 86...Best players ended up being sold club going nowhere.

Here we are 35years later after another of the greatest seasons in our clubs history and does anything look or sound familiar? Moyes has done a terrific job at transforming our club so quickly but now he is running into the problems all the previous managers have done and that is in a certain Mr Sullivan....this man claims to of saved our club and all the rest of the speel he and his cohorts come out with but season in season out and until 2023 has gone and he can sell the club without paying a penny back we are stuck with him and so our great club will once again stumble to a midtable at best finish which will see any of our decent players sold next summer and then he will try and keep us in the division with as little spent on the squad as possible in order to sell it the following year.

Instead of grasping the nettle and prepare to push on and improve a very good first eleven we tuck our tail between our legs and trot off blaming anything and everybody else except themselves for the failings i fear to come as soon as the injuries start to pile up as they do at our club.

Season Ticket Stalling-Silence Deafening!

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Submitted by nevillenixon on Mon, 02/08/2021 - 09:31

With only three weeks remaining before the first home fixture of the Barclays Premier League, the 8PM evening kick off against Leicester City on the 23rd of August, fans still don't know where and in what form their season tickets are. London rivals Chelsea have already sent out their season tickets in the same format as the last real season, ie: a credit card type of ticket, the same as was used by West Ham since the move to the London Stadium.

As yet there is no clear indication as to what form season tickets will take for this coming season, and we would suggest the club is cutting it a bit fine with regards to their timing. How is it that Chelsea have already sent theirs out and yet Hammers fans have been left in the dark as to the whereabouts of their tickets?

Is it because West Ham have more season ticket holders than their London neighbours? The club had previously stated that they were awaiting instructions from the Government BEFORE deciding on the format, so who told Chelsea?

Little things, or big things like this, depending on how you perceive the club, just make everything seem amateur and are NOT necessary When we checked the unit price of printing cards it was less than 10p per card, including the security hologram, so for 60,000 season tickets the outlay is only £6,000!

OK there are postage and administration costs incurred, but surely the club needs to address these type of issues if it really is going to become a slicker and more professional outfit. Try wasting your money waiting in a club phone line queue for an eternity and see what you are told...

Well we did, and after listening to an atrocious version of Bubbles for what seemed like for ever, we were told that tickets for the first TWO home games would be downloadable to either a smart phone or be provided by email in order to be able to print off at home.

Why do the club need to wait for another two weeks ? it's a mystery! - Ed

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Andreas Pereira To West Ham??

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Submitted by cast iron on Sun, 01/08/2021 - 11:53

Think that Pereira would be a great addition to west ham and today it's reported that we have put a bid in for him for 15 million euros about 13 mill pounds which if it comes off will be a real snip. Leicester are also supposed to be going after him but they have said they want him as a replacement for Maddison who is said to be going to Manure- but after the amount that man u have paid already this season I can't see him going anywhere and all this Leicester talk is a smokescreen to drive Pereira's price up

Moyes In Showdown With Sully!

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Submitted by nevillenixon on Sun, 01/08/2021 - 09:45


Hammers lack of activity in the transfer market has gone from being a 'matter of some concern', into a full blown crisis! All the usual guff that emanates from the Hammers hierarchy is there in all but 'physical presence'. The board have realised that they can spew out their bovine excretia from a distance, preferably using a Patsy to verbalise their 'vision'.

In the past it was the 'West Ham Way', but not anymore! David Moyes is most definitely NOT a Hammers Patsy, far from it, in fact we have been told that Moysie and Sully have had one or two or three 'heated' debates regarding player acquisitions. So heated have some of their 'debates' been, that there was apparently the need to have a 'time out' from their discussions in order to avoid the situation spiralling out of control.

David Moyes Is NOT Happy!

David Sullivan and the Board tried to deploy their usual tactic of promising money but then saying the rug has been pulled from under them due to ......the list is endless, but Moyes isn't buying it. Moyes is particularly grieved by the constantly changing fiscal goal posts that has seen his transfer budget go from paltry to miniscule.

As usual the spin machine is in full flight with the usual ridiculously ridiculous speculation regarding this player and that, none of whom the club could possibly afford. There are two major issues evolving here, Moyes is not the type of character to kowtow to rich owners, especially if they aren't rich! The other salient point is that David Moyes is a rather wealthy man in his own right and as such cannot be bribed or cajoled by the Twins' filthy lucre, a situation they find hard to cope with.

We could publish a whole raft of stories about David Sullivan's early business enterprises and how he made them happen whilst skirting the edges of legal ramifications using similar principals to those currently employed in running West Ham, the problem is that the venerable Henri Brandman would be sending us a nice little writ in the post, as he has done in the past.

The next week may well turn out to be one of the most seismic in Hammers already turbulent history since the Twins took over, there bluff and counter bluff finally reaching someone who is resilient who cannot have the wool pulled over his eyes.

David Moyes was most definitely NOT most supporters first choice as a manager, even after rescuing the club from relegation, not once, but twice in quick succession. However he has won over the sceptics who now know that he is a decent man who actually really wants the club to do well, without a hidden agenda except maybe the desire to put one over on Manchester United, and that can't be a bad thing can it? - Ed

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Impossible to keep

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Submitted by mcbikeman on Sun, 01/08/2021 - 08:52

£100 million+ how can a club like us or as we see Villa and looks like the spuds as well how can you turn that money down for just one player? simply put you cannot and the reality is if one of the truly big clubs here or in europe want one of your players then you are powerless to stop them going if they want to.

Grealish to citeh now a certainty and as much as Villa fans may moan it is a fact of life and one we West Ham fans no is the same we will face next summer because i am certain that Rice will go and for the same money if not more the way he is progressing.

Why do they have to leave some ask but lets face it the players Grealish/Kane/Rice are playing with at the moment are good decent premier league players but when it comes to clubs like Citeh/Chelski/Munich/Barca/Madrid/PSG you are getting to the highest and elitest players in world football not just one or two but every player and who would not want to play and train with players and coaches who will make you an even better player than you are now.

What we as a club and as fans have to come to understand is that in Rice we have a phenominal player who is coming into his own more and more and after his performances at the Euros we are doing well to keep him this season IMO.

Now as Villa are facing upto life without Grealish there fans have to understand players like him and Rice do not get replaced you cannot do it and you must not obsess about getting the new Rice/Grealish in you have to be realistic as Clubs like ours and Villa are lucky to have such a player and they standout simply because they are that good and as such when they go you realise just how lucky that we have been to of had such a calibre of player playing for you.

Gareth Bale had to move back in the day he was as mentioned above(Rice/Grealish) just head and shoulders above the players he was currently playing with and it was no surprise that Madrid got him because like i have said if one of the elite want your player then you are powerless to stop it from happening....spuds squandered the money they had to appease fans Villa and eventually us will have to make sure that we do not fall into that trap and be held to ransom by others when we come calling for a lower clubs best player.

So enjoy Declans performances this season and unless we somehow managed to qualify for the champions league next season then it will be his last year in a West Ham shirt it will be sad to see such a fine young player go but at money of over £100 million+ you just cannot turn it down.

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Submitted by Westhamphil on Sat, 31/07/2021 - 10:00

According to the Daily Mail, since January of 2010, when Gold & Sullivan took over the club, they have spent a total of £223 million on 49 different forwards. I wish I could name half of them, but I can't. This turnover is astounding, and what does it say about the board's leadership. I would like to know how many have been sold on and at what income.

Will Hammers Be The Bees Knees?

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Submitted by nevillenixon on Sat, 31/07/2021 - 07:10


West Ham take on newly promoted Brentford at their new 17,500 seat Community Stadium this afternoon for a 3pm kick off friendly, the game being part of the deal that saw Said Benrahma join David Moyes's men last season. Some fans will question the wisdom of playing a Barclays Premier League rival so soon before the beginning of the next campaign.

The fact is that the friendly was arranged before Brentford managed to gain promotion via the play offs, it is a relatively common event for a players ex-club to host a friendly with his new club as part of a 'deal sweetener', pre-Covid gate receipts would have made a decent payday for the vendor club.

Brentford can have fans in their spanking new ground, the match is also being televised by BT Sport, so Hammers fans may get a chance to see a cameo appearance by new signing from PSG, Alphonse Areola. Although Hammers' recruitment is coming under increasing close scrutiny, the squad have to get on with the job of being prepared for the Betway Cup game against Atalanta before the season starts for real against Newcastle the following week.

It will be interesting to see how Moyes approaches the Bees game, does he go full chaff or use the game to give some of the youth players 'competitive' game time? Today will be a special one for Said Benrahma, returning to the club that nurtured him, but don't expect him to go easy on them, quite the opposite, especially as it is a friendly.

It is highly unlikely that Angelo Ogbonna will be risked, despite recovering from his slight hamstring tweak, his injury showing up the glaring paucity of the squad. Why the club let the General AKA Fabian Balbuena leave is baffling, but there is no point in dwelling on what is already done, however it does mean one of the club's promising youngsters can hopefully step up.

The impending arrival of Kurt Zouma will go a long way to quell fears fans had ofthe club being 'left behind', another couple of players and suddenly things begin to look a lot rosier. Brentford will give it a real go this afternoon, so don't expect another Celtic! Happy viewing- Ed

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Hi Hope Hammers

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Submitted by nevillenixon on Sat, 31/07/2021 - 06:36

HAMMERS FANS HAVE HIGH HOPES AHEAD OF THE NEW PREMIER LEAGUE SEASON

West Ham fans were asked how hopeful they are for the season ahead
On a scale of 1-10 (1 being not optimistic at all, 10 being very optimistic) Hammers fans scored a 7.5, placing them 7th in the table

Ahead of the new season, supporters have been having their say on how optimistic they are about West Ham’s upcoming Premier League campaign.

On a scale of 1-10 (1 being not optimistic at all, 10 being very optimistic) West Ham fans scored a 7.5, placing them 7th in the table.

David Moyes worked wonders with West Ham last season, guiding the Hammers to a 6th place Premier League finish, and earning them a spot in the Europa League.

Last season’s performances have warranted a surge in fan hope, with Hammers fans averaging a score of 7.5 out of 10 – a 33% increase on last season. This increase in optimism is the largest out of all Premier League fan bases.

The full Premier League Fan Hope rankings can be found below:

The research was completed by Sky Bet and YouGov as part of their Fan Hopes campaign. The research asked fans of each Premier League team a series of questions about their expectations of the new season.

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Is Tony Fernandes Lurking Behind PAI Capital's Bid?

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Submitted by nevillenixon on Fri, 30/07/2021 - 18:44

In case Hammers fans have forgotten, just around the time the 'biscuit barons' from Iceland took over the club with promises that were impossible to fulfil, there was another buyer eager to negotiate for the club in addition to the MSI consortium that Kia Joorabchian represented.

That other party was Tony Fernandes, a life long Hammers fan. In the end Terence Brown took the biggest offer on the table and accepted the Icelandic's generous deal, much to the chagrin of Joorabchian who promptly 'grassed' the club up to the relevant authorities in order to extricate Carlos Tevez and Javier Mascherano who he had 'placed' with the club in order to get HIS deal over the line.

It is still very puzzling how Tevez was able to be sold to Manchester United without sanction, whereas Hammers were fined an initial £5 Million for registering a player with dual ownership, and then to rub salt in the wounds, ordered to pay Sheffield United £24 Million in 'compensation' because the Blades were so blunt they got relegated!

Anyway, we digress, Tony Fernandes DID have the money to buy West Ham and invest in the club for the future, but he was unable to match the offer Eggert Magnusson's 'mob' made after having carried out his correct due diligence and realisd the Icelandic's figures didn't add up, and so it proved to be.

While Fernandes was busy acquiring Caterham Cars and pursuing other business interests, the Icelandic's went bust and Messrs Gold & Sullivan rode in on their (sic) 'silver stallions' to rescue the club for a bargain basement price when it was on it's knees.

Being a fan, Fernandes was involved in talks regarding a potential takeover of the club in May 2011, at which stage it looked as if he was going to acquire a 51 per cent stake in the club. Former West Ham chairman Andrew Bernhardt even flew to Kuala Lumpur to try and finalise the deal, but the two parties failed to agree on the price. One month later when Fernandes made another offer to buy 51 per cent of the club, unsurprisingly Sullivan and Gold rejected his bid. Sullivan told the Evening Standard: "He wanted 51% of the club for two bob." Now does that sound familiar?

Sullivan's comments started a war of words on Twitter. "It was a good offer with good money and brought in good people," said Fernandes. "Gold and Sullivan can say whatever they want. I have been a lifelong fan and would have brought good money, good ideas, new people and a new belief. As for PR stunts. Wow. They are always in the press making huge claims. Were we not supposed to be in Europe. Now we have been relegated. Two sacked managers. All good players will be sold. No new training ground which is the most important ingredient I feel. Look at how many injuries we have. And more investment into the academy."

Three months later, fed up with kicking his heels, Fernandes did the next best thing any pissed off Billionaire would do and bought QPR instead, a club he and his incredibly rich partner invested massively in, well they would do wouldn't they? After all, they had Harry Redknapp, well known emptier of transfer kitty's, as one of their chosen managers.

Fast forward to the present day, and according to City tittle tattle, that is the City of London financial institutes gossip, as opposed to the country that owns Man city's chit chat, Tony Fernandes has more than a keen interest in the PAI purported take over. It is quite possible that he could be one of several parties involved behind the scenes, as companies like PAI are essentially 'firms that front' for their investors who can remain anonymous should they wish.

PAI's bid is being led by an ex-QPR top man Philip Beard, we might be adding up 2+2 and getting 5, but the group's reluctance to give up their take over attempt makes us think that Tony Fernandes is involved somehow or somewhere, after all, he does have some 'afters' to settle with the 'twins'. - Ed

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Braithwaite To Irons-Who's Having A Giraffe?

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Submitted by nevillenixon on Fri, 30/07/2021 - 16:55

According to a report in spanish media outlet Sport, the Denmark International Martin Braithwaite is very close to joining the Irons, one of their reporters Albert Roge has claimed that there is a “very advanced agreement” Via his personal Twitter account. Well, according to our twitter account that 'report' is stupid, a load of old cobblers, in Roge's language: una tonteria, un montón de zapateros viejos!

Why on this God's earth would Hammers stump up the 'reported' €15 Million transfer to 'cash strapped' Barcelona for a 30 year old who failed to impress in England before when playing for Middlesbrough? Roge's words of wisdom continued with
“Braithwaite, very close to West Ham. €15M transfer. Very advanced agreement between clubs. The forward’s OK is missing.”

Bit of a naff translation that one, as is often the case with 'scoops' from foreign media that are translated incorrectly. Braithwaite is supposedly still undecided whether he wants to tell Barcelona that West Ham are the club he would like to join.....He should be so lucky!

Barcelona can't wait to bounce Braithwaite out the Camp Nou door, it is not really a question of how much Barca would receive as a fee, more like how much they would pay a club to take his ridiculous wages of their books. Apparently there are 'several' clubs who have shown interest in Braithwaite, who however doesn't quite fit the 'looking for a final pay day' bracket, due to the fact that he is insanely wealthy in his own right, he has earned as much money as Lionel Messi!
Braithwaite's fortune though has come from off his off field business interests that he runs jointly with his brother and with his wife, property and fashion, how very nice. So he is over 30, not particularly good and demands massive wages, the exact polar opposite of David Moyes's player template of young, fit and hungry.

Apparently the only detail holding the deal back is the player's salary, crikey mikey he should be paying to play, Roge's having a giraffe! Not in our wildest nightmares, mind you, Sully does love a Scandic you know! - Ed

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