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we had a decent first season under Pellegrini but the second season syndrome set in and basically he was utter pants this season. things like training, recruitment, style etc takes time to change so I know a lot of us look at the owners and now probably Moyes but would we be in this mess if they had kept Moyes on and not gone for the billion dollar man Pellegrini?

yes its the owners fault for choosing him we can say. but could you really blame them for going for a man who had credentials, was well regarded in the game and had one the Prem? add to this that at the time I recall a big outcry from fans that Moyes wasn't the man, that they wanted better football etc and then they welcomed the news of Pellegrini.

my point here is just a discussion on whether our problems now stem basically from that decision - to appoint pellegrini and not keep on Moyes.

would we for example have spent our wad on fornals and Anderson, haller and yarmalenko and Wiltshire if Moyes had been in charge? I recall Moyes wanting the likes of dendonker - proved to be a hard working good player for wolves now.

I've said it before, if you want to compete in the top league now, you can't expect to 'out football' the other teams who have more money and bigger squads and players who are better at that. you have to design a side that is effective ala Leicester using pace and vardy, or wolves using skill and an unusual 3-4-3. then you recruit players for the system you decided on. what pellegrini did was just buy players who were 'good' on paper, but with no plan to implement them into a side.

now Moyes is picking up the pieces and has found out quickly there is no team here. we're a bunch of mercenaries in the most part, flung together with way too many same, same types - lanzini, fornals, yarmalenko, Anderson. we have no real cutting edge, no pace and not enough graft.

The only thing we can pray for is to go down. This constant insistence from out if touch pundits and commentators that relegation is bad and doom and gloom is nonsense. The perpetual clinging on by our fingertips is more doom and gloom in my book. The vast majority of West Ham seasons in the Prem that I can remember: Mid table bottom half finish, shit cup runs, might beat a big club at home but only a maximum of two, lose to the worst team in the league at home, maybe two, every 5 or so years a “cheap” maverick comes along and does a few step overs and rabonas. That’s it, that’s what we are, who we were and who we’ll always be. Embrace it fellow hammers. Average managers, owners and players. We couldn’t be any more mediocre than we are now under Moyes with the bird we have and the playing staff. So I do let’s forget about clinging on, only to cling on next year and the year after. Let’s take our medicine go down, cut the fat out of the team. We all know who they are. Use Noble, Snodgrass, Antonio to bring on some of our youth and go back to winning games. Playing some football. Let the fans have a season of joy. You never know a lot that have had enough might come back. Watch a bit of football, win most games and come back refreshed. The fans will be refreshed. You never know the owners might sell up and hand it on to someone else. Give a Gerard a chance to manage us in the Champs. Otherwise unfortunately all we are is the same as we were at UP but in a stadium we all hate.