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Carroll injured wont play again this season after ankle surgery....And so thats how his west ham career ends....out with the proverbial whimper
Carroll injured wont play again this season after ankle surgery....And so thats how his west ham career ends....out with the proverbial whimper
Those venerable purveyors of the truth, funded by Sky TV, Talksport, otherwise known as Talks***e by most fans, were very keen to upload the Premier League players who are most valuable. TS used 'data' from the CIES Football Observatory apparently using statistics to determine the most valuable player in every squad based on their estimated transfer value. All well and good, now we at the Org aren't sure of the value of other team's players, but we do have a pretty good idea of the value of most West Ham players, therefore it was with some incredulity that we noticed one or two 'glaring' absentees from the top 20.
Marko Arnautovic's well publicised stropp after missing out on his Chinagate deal will no doubt have diminished his value. especially given his woeful form since 'returning to the fold', but has he seriously dropped £21 Million in value as a result of all the shenanigans? As if that error was not enough, how about Felipe Anderson? One minute there is talk of David Sullivan promising the player that the club have just paid over £35 Million for that he can leave if an offer of over £65 Million is made for his services and yet Anderson doesn't even make the top 20, which again infers Anderson's value has 'suddenly' dipped by over £20 Million.
Although the list below does value Declan Rice at £69 Million, how on earth can both Arnautovic and Anderson be omitted from it? It is one thing to re-print data, it is another to actually read what you are reprinting! Judge for yourself.... Comments to Talkshite as well as ourselves please, even better call them up on 0871 722 3344 the calls do cost premium fees but they will call you back generally, if not it is worth 50p or so just to block up their switchboard by leaving get your facts right messages! - Ed
20. Cardiff City – Josh Murphy is worth €14million
19. Huddersfield Town – Terence Kongolo is worth €17million
18. Newcastle United – Jamaal Lascelles is worth €19million
17. Brighton and Hove Albion – Shane Duffy is worth €21million
16. Burnley – James Tarkowski is worth €24million
=14. Watford – Gerard Deulofeu is worth €37million
14. Southampton – Nathan Redmond is worth €37million
13. Crystal Palace – Wilfried Zaha is worth €38million
12. Bournemouth – Nathan Ake is worth €41million
11. Wolverhampton Wanderers – Ruben Neves is worth €46million
10. Fulham – Aleksandar Mitrovic is worth €50million
9. Leicester City – Youri Tielemans (on loan from Monaco) is worth €60million
8. West Ham United – Declan Rice is worth €69million
7. Everton – Richarlison is worth €82million
6. Arsenal – Pierre-Emerick Aubameyang is worth €84million
5. Chelsea – Eden Hazard is worth €122million
4. Manchester United – Romelu Lukaku is worth €159million
3. Liverpool – Mohamed Salah is worth €185million
2. Manchester City – Raheem Sterling is worth €187million
1. Tottenham Hotspur – Harry Kane is worth €198million

There are inevitably winners and losers as a result of relegation from the Barclays Premier League, as West Ham supporters know only too well! So the 'vultures' will be circling those clubs already relegated and those who are close to the drop zone, out of Fulham and Huddersfield, the two teams already confirmed as relegated, Fulham represent the best club to 'target' for 'bargains', not that there are any bargains available, merely a shift in price from the exorbitant to just extremely over valued.

With the complete clear out of strikers that is envisaged at the end of the season, committed replacement players will have to be recruited, and while the potential signing of Maxi Gomez has occupied most of the column inches, it is Fulham striker Alexsandar Mitrovic who has emerged as Hammers main target. The irony that will not be lost on supporters is that the pursuit of Gomez was essentially based on Marko Arnautovic's potential departure to China which of course didn't happen, but also on the premise that Celta Vigo, Gomez's current club, were going to be relegated which in turn would reduce Gomez's release clause by 50%.
As it happens the odds on certain sites like bestbettingsites.online for Celta Vigo to be relegated have shifted, whereas Fulham are already down, therefore using their business heads, the Hammers hierarchy have decided to make Mitrovic one of their main targets as opposed to Gomez because it makes more financial sense. The only fly in the ointment being that there are no shortage of suitors for the Serbian player's services, Leicester, Tottenham, Everton, Southampton and even Chinese side Guangzhou Evergrande are all interested in acquiring the 24 year old.
Mitrovic is a bit of a rough diamond and does not have a particularly good disciplinary record, when he first arrived in this country following his £13 Million transfer from Anderlecht to Newcastle he managed to get sent off and suspended regularly. In fact on the 30th of August 2017, he was suspended for three matches after an elbow to the head of none other than West Ham's Manuel Lanzini, which was picked up by television cameras. Partly as a result of his 'indiscretions' Mitrovic went out on loan to Fulham during the 2018 January transfer window helping them gain promotion, the Cottagers were so impressed with Mitrovic that they signed him permanently from Newcastle in the summer of 2018 for an initial fee of £22 Million, potentially rising to £27 Million.
Serbian news outlet Sportski Zurnal are running with the story and according to them the deal for Hammers to sign Mitrovic is already in the bag, apparently Mitrovic's premier league experience is what has tipped the scales in his direction and he is seen as an ideal young replacement for Marko Arnautovic. Standing at 1.87 m tall, or 6' 2 " in old money, Mitrovic is a powerful player, much like Arnautovic, but although Fulham are already relegated he won't come cheap, far from it especially given the wealth of the Cottagers' owner. However the dreaded FFP will kick in and despite the owners resources they may well have to sell players to get their wages off the books, Mitrovic currently receives around £70,000 per week, well within Hammers salary structure. There might however be a little bit of 'bad blood' between Fulham and West Ham as a result of the Ryan Fredericks deal which saw the player move across London on a 'free' transfer, the player's decision having severely irked those in control at Craven Cottage.
It isn't nice to benefit from others misfortunes, but as we have already mentioned as a club West Ham United have suffered greatly as a result of relegation, with a certain Mr Levy being one of the main beneficiaries on more than one occasion. Newcastle United, despite their fans perception of owner mike Ashley, actually retained most of their first team squad when they were relegated and as a consequence of keeping most of their players were able to bounce back at the first attempt. Fulham may well do likewise, but as loyalty doesn't exist in the modern game anymore the likelihood of players like Mitrovic leaving is very high, having spent more than West Ham in the preceding summer window Fulham will have at least hoped to have retained their Premier League status and will have looked at what Wolverhampton Wanderers have achieved in their first season in the top flight for many years.
When the final relegation place is decided their will be even more players available, although the relegated clubs receive generous umbrella or parachute payments they generally have to get rid off players because of the wage differentials between those on fat premier league contracts and those who are brought in from the lower divisions. With the exception of Jack Wilshere and to a lesser extent Carlos Sanchez, Hammers had an incredibly successful recruitment drive that coincided with the arrival of Manuel Pellegrini but it is unlikely that the same levels of expenditure will be reached due to the dreaded FFP, the only way the vicious cycle can be prevented is by making a profit on player sales, would Hammers fans like the idea of selling for example Declan Rice or Felipe Anderson?
Hammers will go in to the next transfer window a more balanced and stable squad but there is still a lot of work to do, at least the penny has finally dropped about bringing young players through, after all how much would it cost to buy players to fill the positions of Declan Rice, Grady Diangana and Xande Silva? The point is Hammers will have to blend youth players with the first team, it is the only way the club can afford to compete. If Mitrovic does make the move to the London Stadium the fee will be substantial and will probably eat up half of the proposed transfer budget, it is to be hoped that any move will be preceded by a 'forensic' medical as the club cannot afford to take another big hit when it comes to signing big money players.
Expect plenty more about Mitrovic's potential arrival at West Ham, particularly in the run up to the season ticket renewal date of May the 17th! - Ed
Whats all this about you boys are thinking well we all know how we love to beat the spuds and other local rivals which goes without saying i wonder how man on here for one reason or another hold a grudge/gripe about a club that is so out of left field it can only mean something to that person.
Well this girl has one and it is for Coventry that makes my blood boil and makes me smile when they get relegated or suffer defeat and why is that? well many years ago(not going to say how many am i!)an away trip to Coventry as a young lass sounded fun an adventure but it was not it poured with rain all day my west ham wellingtons leaked! and the meat pie was stone cold and the tea as weak as you no what and to top it all we of course lost and the journey home the fan belt broke! ever since that day Coventry have been on my teams i do not like list lol silly of course but i cannot help but get annoyed eveytime i hear them mentioned and i look to see if they get beat each week so any of you got a team which for some daft reason you just do not like apart as i say from the usual suspects
Daniel Levy and the Tottenham hierarchy have been well pleased with themselves following the successful trial games played at their newly re-furbished stadium ahead of it's official opening, however their joy has turned to anxiety as a result of comments made by their manager Mauricio Pochettino. 'Poch' has said that the new stadium is brilliant and that it made him cry to see it, but crucially he has refused to confirm how long he will remain as manager.
To put it mildly the fall out form the Argentine's comments has been cataclysmic, with the search for a replacement being stepped up. That is not to say the situation is not fluid, Pochettino may well stay but it means poor old Daniel Levy will be forced to prise open the club's coffers in order to ensure his manager stays.
Although it may show a lack of originality, Tottenham's reported target as Mauricio Pochettino's replacement is none other than Manuel Pellegrini he is contracted to West Ham United for another two years after the end of this season, Daniel Levy apparently has no problem matching and bettering the £192,000 per week Pellegrini currently receives.
While this situation will have many Hammers fans furious at the thought of their neighbors 'nicking' their manager, it should be remembered that Manuel Pellegrini was top of Levy's shopping list as their new manager but in the end they went for the cheaper option of Pochettino, who couldn't do interviews without an interpreter at the time.
How much money West Ham will demand to pay off Pelle's contract is anybody's guess, but it won't be cheap bearing in mind the previous 'bad blood' between the clubs. - Ed
seems after every rubbish loss we take to the channels to say we need a wholesale clearout. personally, I don't think so. I think there's potential in this squad. for me the problem is the players aren't asserting their ability in the 'lesser' matches.
is this a managerial problem? is Pelle failing to motivate these players?
this being Pelle's first season, I'm inclined to give him more credit. I think overall hes done a decent Job in signings and style. we are afterall not in a relegation fight.
I personally think the likes of Fabianski, Balbuena, Diop, Zabaletta, Anderson, Yarmalenko, Rice, Antonio, Hernandez, Lanzini, Noble, Cresswell, Wiltshire, Carroll and Arnautovic form a pretty good squad and the likes of Snodgrass, Diangara, Obiang, Ogbonna, Fredericks, Massuaku, Nasri are decent squad players.
Bearing in mind that Pelle has had Yarmolenko (who looked mustard) out, Balbuena out, Lanzini out - the team is not as strong as it could have been.
For me the one biggest issue this season has to be Arnautovic. Before Chinagate he was one of the top strikers in the league. So basically Pelle has lost him too. bottom line here is he has to go and we have to replace him with someone good and once that is done, we will look a good side again.
Its been up and down this season. good performances like against Liverpool and Arsenal matched with utter sh** against burnley and Everton.
But I don't think our squad is as bad as some make out. I think with a few tweaks, Pelle will get it stronger in the summer.
Coming off the back of another loss, I think for most, its become quite apparent as to why we've been battling relegation the previous few seasons. Players that I believe we thought were good enough but just under performing its turns out are just not good enough, and whilst we have 4 or 5 good players, and while pellegrini isn't blameless, i'm sure he expected certain individuals to be better then they are. So with a rumoured £25m starting transfer budget, I like most felt like this was way lower then what it should be. However looking in to a bit deeper, you can start to see why. Previous season we didn't really sell anybody, just loaned players out this along with the fact we pay many players silly wages you start to realise that for a club with our resources we have a lot of players on our books. So as the title suggests, who could we sell and how much realistically. In my opinion we need a mass clearout, was thinking along the lines of: Arnautovic £30m, Oxford £10m, Snodgrass £6m, Masuaku £6m, Obiang £5m, Ogbonna £5m, Hugill £5m, Byram £3m, Cullen £3m, Sanchez £2m, Perez £2m = £77m
All seem realistic enough, maybe under priced a few and over priced a couple others, but you never know with this market. If that was to happen and you add it all to the budget you have circa 100m to spend again and thats without taking in to consideration that Carroll, Adrian and maybe Zab are all leaving on a free and Edi Fernandez comes back off loan aswell. We have a lot of deadwood!
West Ham United: Fabianski, Zabaleta, Diop, Ogbonna, Cresswell, Rice, Obiang, Snodgrass, Lanzini, Perez, Arnautovic. Subs: Adrian, Balbuena, Masuaku, Noble, Diangana, Antonio, Hernandez.
Everton FC: Pickford, Coleman, Keane, Zouma, Digne, Gueye, Gomes, Richarlison, Sigurdsson, Bernard, Calvert-Lewin. Subs: Stekelenburg, Baines, Jagielka, Davies, Lookman, Walcott, Tosun.
I dont care if he is an unmentionable mother fecker!,he was brilliant
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Ok ok i may be over egging the pudding a little but Nasri is out of the Everton game at the weekend because he took the dreaded KNOCK in training......can i ask El Pel to please no include that part in training anymore as clearly our players are to good at getting it!
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