So we are not going to win the league this season and now the league cups here Charlton at home do you want a cup run this season or concentrate in staying in the league? and just what sort of side will Moyes pick and if we lose(God Forbid)where will we go from there...not a week old and the same old problems arise.
Being tolerant of under achieving players is part of the West Ham way, if you want to see 'perfection' go and support Liverpool or whoever tops the Barclays Premier League. If you choose to continue supporting West Ham then you have to accept certain unpleasant characteristics, namely there has never for years been a properly balanced squad either at the Boleyn Ground or at The London Stadium, consequently players are often played out of position resulting in inept performances.
However fans in the past and in the future will forgive ineptitude so long as the player has 'attitude', unfortunately one person who has become inept and has lost his 'attitude' or Mojo, whatever you wish to call it is Aaron Cresswell. It may seem a little unfair to 'pick on' Cresswell following yesterday's tepid team display, but he was truly dreadful, so bad was he, his performance obscured and eclipsed the equally useless Ryan (I've forgotten what to do with the ball) Fredericks!
So uninspiring were their performances in defence and attack viewers found themselves wondering why on earth players were passing the ball to either of them in the first place. Hammers hit the bar a couple of times during the two nil defeat, but in reality Newcastle, complete with Hammers' nemesis Calum Wilson always looked as if they could score more, Wilson and his fellow debutant Jeff Hendrick both scored which would have sent fans rushing to the bar, if there had been any fans inside the ground.
We don't generally like to highlight one player's bad performance on the basis that it won't help the situation, but really, Moyes MUST axe Cresswell, he more than any other first teamer has gone backwards and his decline looks very much as if it is terminal. While Cresswell had a bad day, Fredericks just continued to have a 'poor' day, his decision making sucks and we are of the opinion that he could benefit from counselling to help him overcome his 'fear', nine times out of ten he misplaces his passes or receives the ball only to return it to a player who is being closed down by the opposition, it isn't just the odd occasion, he does it nearly all the time!
James Tarkowski, even if he arrives wouldn't make a blind bit of difference at the moment, because until the full back situation is sorted everything else will be like a pack of cards, and the cards Hammers fans are currently being dealt are rubbish. West Ham United are good at setting bad records, yesterday's defeat meant they became the first club to lose their opening match for the fifth consecutive season, thus setting a Barclays Premier League record!
Yesterday's misery was compounded by the fact that the odious Alan (I despise West Ham) Smith was one of the match commentators. - Ed
Yeah, we never win 1st game but let's face it this was dire. Youve had weeks to prepare for this. Where was the energy? The passion to push forward? I must say even haller n yarmo looked a better option when they came on.
Just look at Leeds energy n desire compared to ours. Why?
West Ham: Fabianski, Fredericks, Ogbonna, Diop, Cresswell, Noble, Rice, Soucek, Fornals, Bowen, Antonio. Subs: Randolph, Balbuena, Yarmolenko, Anderson, Lanzini, Haller, Johnson.
Newcastle: Darlow, Manquillo, Fernandez, Lascelles, Lewis, Shelvey, Hendrick, Hayden, Saint-Maximin, Carroll, Wilson. Subs: Gillespie, Joelinton, Ritchie, Krafth, Fraser, Almirom, S. Longstaff.
He's only dunit ,he's out there now tipping us against the Maggie's
You can see similarities with Everton to us last season. Only Everton look like getting it right. Big name manager comes in, big money spent.
Whereas we bought Anderson and haller. Everton have got Rodriguez, Allan and Dacoure. The difference in quality is vast.
Our attempt if 'moving into top 6' failed miserably. Let's see how ancellotti gets on. I suspect, a lot better.
are in talks with west ham about a £45mill transfer.Heaven help us if is agreed
Once again bad business from WHU they knew he was broken when he came from Arsenal played a few games for Bournemouth and about ten appearances for WHU in the last 2 years and today the 3 stooges want to end his contract by mutual consent. Don't know if any of you remember the outcome with Freddy Luonberg but it cost WHU 6.5 million back in the day they didn't learn anything then, now it looks like Arsenal found another secret weapon in Jack Wheelchair. Everybody knew he was a bad investment except David Sullivan don't know how he became a Billionaire. BUt very fast to send me a text telling me that today is my last day to renew my season ticket GSBOUT
Brother Enfield all is not lost !,We shall overcome ,West Ham will be free !First off !,I hope everyone is well .It is great being able to share my thoughts on this great site. Well ten years ago ,I did warn everybody what to expect from the self styled 'Messiahs' .I think it would be kind in saying that the Cons ,need a truth detector test , rather than a lie detector test they lie so much !Nobody believes them when they say hello anymore !They are ABSOLUTE MASTERS at using the media to spin their lies for them. They leak different 'exclusives', to different members of the media .They even have their own Pravada spinning 24/7 on their behalf .They will do anything to protect The Cons .From pleading poverty, to throwing the manager under the bus . Even trying to shift the blame on to Sullivan's original 'girl Friday '. Mrs Brady.
When you see Dave Sullivan JNR occupying TWO pages in the Daily Mail talking about himself and his pad, as well as the other son ,Jack, having a TV program made about him being the youngest Football boss. Then you realise , how great their influence in the media is .It doesn't stop there !They have little attack dogs, using false profiles on twitter and on various fan sites ,desperately trying to shoot down any criticism of the Cons. But even that is not working any more .Even their one time biggest happy clappers, have vehemently turned against them !People are sick of the lies !I feel bitter in the way that they have betrayed people's trust ,people who wanted and believed in the dream .Nothing wrong with that .
As for myself ,Brother Enfield and a few others ,we warned about the 'phantom ' bids .Bids with zero intent .Bidding well below what the selling Club wants ,or offering personal terms that they know perfectly well the player won't accept ,are just a couple of 'party' tricks they use. The end result is always the same .We tried. Their little lackeys will spin it that the player was greedy, the agents were greedy ,the selling Club wanted all the money up front .Lies ,lies ,sweet little lies .Then you would get the leaks to the various media outlets :"West Ham 'closing in' on Messi !West Ham 'closing in' on Ronaldo "Add any fantasy land signing you want !West Ham would of been 'closing in' on them at one time or another. In the beginning the fans would be giddy with excitement, Not now. And Fareham ?At times I would pour a double JD ,laugh and say BOLLOCKS !!
The reality has always been the same with The Cons, in their 27 years at Birmingham City and West Ham United. Freebies, cheapies and loan after loan is what they deliver .Although I must admit I enjoyed the phantom' bid 'leaked at Birmingham City the best .They leaked it that they were 'closing in ' on Diego Maradonna .Alas when Maradonna signed for Sevilla ,and was asked about the Birmingham City 'bid'. Surprise !Surprise ! He said he'd never heard of them .Anything to shift the season tickets ! Not for nothing are they the 'FOUR ' time relegation 'kings'. They love relegation !Its like winning an Oscar to them !They would rather see their side relegated than spend money.
The 'Messiahs' will do anything for money. That's why they bought West Ham United. For money. I 'm no financial wizard. But something stinks they the way they sold our ground cheaply, and it got flipped so cheaply afterwards. Make no error about it ,they have been deep involved in the Upton Gardens property development. No doubt that is where they've made their money. Next level ,champions league blah blah. One flew over the Cuckoo'S Nest stuff !This season we have had the usual suspects, rolling out the tearjerkers on behalf of the Cons. With Financial Fair Play so yesterday ,the theme has been all football Clubs facing a 'financial Armageddon due to Cov-19'.The market would be flat we were told. Of course every other Club bar West Ham United ,have been throwing money around in a frenzy. Like someone about to go bankrupt and having a last spree on the credit cards before handing them over to the receiver.
There mantra is divide and rule. They don't even pretend to go through the fascade , of going after this star or that star anymore .What for ?They know no one believes them anymore. Some make the mistake of thinking that Sullivan is prime evil and Gold is just the "Uncle Albert "type. Don't be fooled they are in it together. They are like two bank robbers working in tandem !Gold holds the bag open while Sullivan packs the loot in. So where does it leave us ?Most of the fanbase hate the Cons and I'm sure they are not overly keen on us. However we are far from an impossible position, even with the 'Messiahs' at the helm .Lets leave the theatrics aside away for a moment. As much as I would like to ,I cannot blame all the evils at the Club on the 'Messiahs'. Lets face facts here .When the arrived at Birmingham City ,they were in the third tier of English football, mired in debt ,St Andrews was falling apart .When they left ,St Andrews was rebuilt ,Birmingham City were in the Premier League and were in the black .So it is a fact and NOT opinion. They left Birmingham City in a far better state than when they found it.
It is the same thing at West Ham. You cannot blame them for everything that has gone wrong. When they appointed Manuel Pellegrini ,they did give him a big budget and kept well away. The signing of Jack Wilshere costing over 15 million over three years was a disaster beyond their control .Sullivan, must of gone mental when he was offered that deal !Neither can you blame him for the signings of Sanchez and Roberto. Those three were The Director of football, Mario Hussilos, signings .In fact Sullivan did not want Husillos at the Club, as he had doubts about him. But he backed the manager . Malaga fans blamed, Hussilos , for their relegation bemoaning his dud signings, however hindsight is always a wonderful thing. Yes ,Pellegrini was a washed up manager on his last payday .Yes he was a naïve appointment, but most fans were giddy when he walked through the door. People now say he was not backed in the second season, which is true. But we will take a closer look at things One of the big problems we face in the transfer window is we have no transfer war chest .We have paid the price for years of cheapies, freebies and loan after loan.
Lets get this out in the open regards this cry baby mentality about "always being a selling Club ".ALL Football Clubs are selling Clubs ! Lets take a look at Liverpool for example .They paid £22 million for Suarez and sold him for eighty million, Countinho was bought for £11.7 million and sold for £105million and Torres was bought for £18.7 m and sold for £50 m .A profit of 182m .Some gets used to service the Clubs debt .The other is left in a transfer war chest .So when Jurgen Klopp needs to spend big .The dough is there .Or do you think the hierarchy of Liverpool Football Club, come rushing into Jurgen Klopp's office and say :"Jurgen !Old boy !How much dough can we give you to spend this summer window ??100m ?200m? .Of course not !It is the same at all Football Clubs !The key is buying and selling well .Even little Brentford are showing the way !
We have an unbalanced squad ,lacking in depth but have some very talented individuals .We badly need a period of stability and a steady growth .I'm not a huge fan of David Moyes, many must feel the same about him as I do .It is a like the young lad who goes to a Club .He eyes three beautiful girls ,but one by one they go home with somebody else. Towards the end of the night he sees this other girl and thinks; "She is better than nothing ".They end up going home, and surprise !surprise !They have a hell of a time ! David Moyes has proved post lock down, that he is hugely liked by the players and respected. We played some good stuff and stayed up .People say he will never get another job if he leaves us .Rubbish .He has somewhat restored his reputation when he kept us up for the second time. I have just got the feeling ,we will be getting 'the Everton Moyes'. He is hell bent on revamping the Club, from top to bottom .If you are good enough you are old enough was Moyes, philosophy at Goodison Park. We badly need to get one or two Academy graduates into the first team squad . Moyes has a very good and experienced Coaching staff ,that will help settle promising youngsters into the first team squad. We have no choice, BUT to back our manager and as always the team. We are going to need a strong man to stand up to the 'Messiahs'. I just have a gut feeling that David Michael Moyes will do just that .
As for the 'Messiahs' ,as always 1!2!3!4! time to shove G&S the FOUR time relegation 'kings' out the door. But realistically speaking, there are very few People lining up to buy Football Clubs .I think the Cons will hold out till they've bought the ground .That way they will make real dough if they sell up .If we have a horrific start to the season, they are going to think Burnley was a school picnic. Things will get very ugly indeed ,sadly it will boil over onto the pitch .Something has to give and they know it .I can see them waving goodbye to Brady and appoint a new CEO. After that who knows ?But them kill my love for West Ham ??NEVER !Christ on a bike our love for West Ham is far deeper than that. As we showed post lockdown we have enough talent in the squad to beat anyone .Lets hope Moyes can bully ,force ,persuade the 'Messiahs' to open their fat wallets, so that he can bring a bit more quality in !As ALWAYS looking forward to the new season .We are more than a football Club, we're a way of life !COYI !!!
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West Ham United's pursuit of James Tarkowski is going the way of many 'big ticket' deals as both parties jockey for position with offer and counter offer, and now it appears a compromise might be reached on the selling club's asking price. Mindful that Tarkowski's £50 Million release clause will not be met by ANY club, Burnley have opted for the best they can get in the current Covid-19 affected market, with prices up to 40% down compared to last year
West Ham's initial bid of £23 Million was knocked back instantly, but there was enough 'meat on the table' for Burnley to 'request' further dialogue, at this point the situation became more complex because Leicester City, flush with cash from player sales, made enquiries regarding the midfielders availability. Sean Dyche did what all good managers would do by insisting the player is a key part of his set up and that any representations would have to factor in the player's importance to the club, this 'statement' of policy was obviously designed to bump the price up, and it has!
Hammers returned with a £27 Million bid which DID get considered by the Burnley board who ultimately have control of transfers, unfortunately Leicester City spoiled the party by matching the offer, this was not what David Moyes wanted. Entering in to a bidding war for a player is the last thing he wanted, bearing in mind the 'microscopic' transfer Kitty he has available to use.
The toing and froing between all parties has continued at a relentless pace, however the break through came when West Ham's next offer proved too rich for Leicester, an offer of £30 Million was enough to 'bounce' the opposition but still not enough to convince Dyche to part with one of his most valuable assets, the Burnley board think otherwise and have made it known that they are prepared to do business.
As with all deals of this nature, the final fee including add ons and sell ons will probably get a 'UF' notice, the term undisclosed fee is commonly used in transfers because club's can legally manipulate how and when payments are made, it also ensures confidentiality and enables the buying and selling club to 'save face'.
£30 Million should have sealed the deal, but the request for a further 10% has rather complicated the issue, this hiking of the price is perfectly normal but will not help in the speedy expedition of the transfer, in other words it might drag on and on which actually will suit neither party in reality. Dyche will want to use the money from the sale to make player acquisitions as soon as poosible in order to integrate them in to his squad, and likewise David Moyes will want as much time as possible with his new player in order to integrate him in to the squad.
Further developments are all on hold waiting for the deal to either happen or not, if it does go through then you can bet your bottom dollar that Issa Diop will be on his way. Jose Mourinho is a known admirer of the French centre back however a deal with Tottenham is highly unlikely due to the bad blood between both clubs. It is worth noting that West Ham spokespeople have been very careful with their terminology regarding players available for transfer, the "Grady Diangana was sold because we had so many other players available to cover that position" statement was clearly designed to pave the way for further outgoings, so by citing a surfeit of players in one position, a similar situation is likely to evolve as happened with Grady Diangana.
The club will be able to say " Issa Diop was superfluous to the squad, because we now have enough centre backs following the arrival of James Tarkowski", and if West Ham do end up paying the £33 Million Burnley are asking for it might not just be Issa Diop who will be the sacrificial lamb because there is still a massive need for at least one additional full back, preferably two, Oh and the need for a back up striker for when Big Mich 'The Beast' Antonio picks up his inevitable hamstring injury! - Ed
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