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Carroll Injured Even Before Newcastle Game

Take it with whichever size grain of salt you like, but there is a particularly worrying story on social media regarding the fitness, or lack of it, of Hammers striker Andy Carroll. According to an airport facilities worker who wished to remain unnamed, the 6'4" Geordie striker celebrated his return to the region by missing the last steps and falling arkwardly on the stairs leading down from the Plane arriving at Newcastle International Airport that West Ham had taken for their fixture against Newcastle, ironically it was felt the long coach journey would have a detremental effect on players' D.V.T ratings!

Although Hammers' staff were tight lipped regarding the incident, apparently "there was nothing much too it, Andy just stumbled down the last few steps and pulled up a little gingerley as a result, he'll be perfectly OK". In any other circumstances and at any other club this would not be a newsworthy item, but this is Andy Carroll and the club is West Ham United, what better calamitous combination coud you possibly conjure up" And it's Panto season!

If comfirmed, some conspiracy theorists will see this latest injury as part of deliberate programme to ensure that Hammers will yet again be denied the services of the ex-england striker, even in the final twelve months of his contract. There's bad luck, even worse bad luck and then tjere is Andy Carroll, how many cats has he run over? How may ladders has he walked under? And don't even go in to how many mirrors he has broken, the player is a one man demolition squad, and his target is himself!

The Geordies up at St James' Park might just have to miss out on seeing Big Andy, but then again perhaps his poecerlain body migh just be up foe one more showing 'before the lights come down'. It could only happen to West Ham. - Ed

Right Back In The Creek Without A Paddle Can Antonio Help?

The media do love a good story whether there is any truth in it or not, nowadays it is called fake news, back in the day it was just known as bovine excreta or words to that effect. Hammers manager Manuel Pellegrini hasn't exactly helped himself when it comes to the club's precarious right back berth, as El Pel has made it very clear that 'veteran' Pablo Zabaleta the only fit right back available cannot play all of the seven games scheduled to be played during the month of December, unfortunately this statement will see the price of an additional player sky rocket due to the urgency of the situation.

The long term injury to Sam Byram was bad enough, but when Ryan Fredericks sustained a severe shin injury alarm bells started to ring, Fredericks who arrived on a free transfer from Fulham was supposed to be 'tutored' by Zabaleta in the art of Premier League defending but was unable to perform well enough to displace the ageing Argentine. The plan was for Fredericks to learn as much as he could and then take over from 'Zaba' for the second half of the season, there is an expression 'if you want to make god laugh, then tell him your plans', well he must be 'aving a real laugh at the moment! No one could really have anticipated the 'injury cull' that the club has experienced, but sort it out they must, ahead of the January window.

Up until Frederick's injury the main focus on recruitment was to bolster the midfield, and there are already plans afoot to cover that area, but right back is a different issue. Numerous players are being 'linked' with a move to the London Stadium, but most of them are out of contract, and players who are out of contract are usually so for a reason. They tend to either be unfit, too old or too much trouble or too expensive! Be that as it may be Hammers have to cover the right back berth because Zabaleta , despite looking fitter than virtually any other player at the club, will not be able to sustain the energy levels he has been expending which defy logic.

One left field suggestion has been to try and incorporate Reece Oxford as an emergency right back, he is disillusioned at his lack of game time and Manuel Pellegrini has stated that he needs to show 'more application'. It might suit all parties in the short term, another option doing the rounds is the return of Glen Johnson who has been without a club since leaving Stoke in the summer, he is one year older than Pablo Zabaleta though! Another more practical option is to try Michail Antonio as right back, he has done it before when Slaven Billic was manger and with his speed could match most players for pace.

Manuel Pellegrini has already shown that he is not afraid to use players from the youth set up, but as a right back in the Premier League there is nowhere to hide, and mistakes get punished. Putting a youngster in at the deep end can have far reaching consequences which is why 'Pele' has not drafted anyone in as yet, but would an outside player be any better than what is available from the U-23 and youth team? Probably not, Patrice Evra was parachuted in last season, picked up a bunch of cash and essentially did bugger all except have a laugh on Instagram on a regular basis.

For once the club's woes cannot be blamed on bad planning, just bad luck, and these things do have a habit of levelling themselves out over the course of the season, it is to be hoped that the second half is the polar opposite to the first when it comes to injuries. - Ed

Hammers Will Attempt To Reduce Wage Bill Ahead Of Arrivals

Manuel Pellegrini has been very clear to state that he is not seeking to sell any players during the January transfer window, he has actually inferred that he wants to bring 'a couple more. The only fly in the ointment being that the Hammers hierarchy have sent a clear message that any incomings will have to be financed by outgoing player sales and possibly loan fees, after all it isn't as if they haven't backed their manager up already in the transfer market but enough is enough.

Hammers 'expensively' assembled squad does feature some disproportionately high earners, not all of them as a result of Pellegrini, the chief culprit being Slaven Billic in the case of Javier Hernandez. The mexican International has earned and continues to earn a staggering £135,000 per week from the four year deal he was handed, such fiscal profligacy is fiscally unsustainable for a player who hasn't started games under three different West ham managers. In fact 'Chicharito's' cost per goal dynamic is very similar to the 'Unicorn' striker that is Andy Carroll!

Hernandez and Carroll are on a combined wage of £1 Million per month, give or take a few grand, that is some serious wedge! West Ham have traditionally been known as a club that pay decent wages, the club reguarly features in the top ten of payers, usually for players past their prime but with a few miles left on the clock. However this is supposed to be the new cut and thrusting West Ham that can go out on almost equal terms with the 'elite' when it comes to recruiting players, the massive TV revenue coupled with the fact that Hammers have not had to take out vast loans in order to finance increased capacity in the form of a new Stadium, unlike London rivals Arsenal and Tottenham.

The only issue facing the possibility of offloading the unused high earners is who could afford them, and would they want to leave their 'cushy' little number at the London Stadium? Players' wives and girlfriends love London for it's shops and culture, selling a move 'oop' North may be easy to get a player's agreement, but it is the W.A.G.S that invariably make the final decision. In the case of Hernandez there are offers on the table, but they are all for loan deals with Hammers having to supplement his wages, one suspects the club would be prepared to take quite a hit on the £15 Million they paid for him just to get him off the wages bill.

The other 'old chesnut' has to be Andy Carroll, it's not his fault that he was given an eye watering deal, what should he have done? He just took what was on offer just like any sane human being would in similar circumstances, unfortunately the club still need to learn about signing expensive failures given the fact that they signed Jack Wilshere, but Wilshere apart all the rest of the signings represent relatively good value, especially in a market that is so artificailly inflated due to the TV revenues each and every Barclays Premier League club receive.

Freeing up enough money to bring in three or four players makes absolute sense given the lengthy long term injury list the club is having to deal with, no one would have anticipated losing the services of both Andrily Yarmolenko, Ryan Fredericks and Manuel Lanzini so early in the season, in Lanzini's case he never even got to be seen playing in person by Manuel Pellegrini. New recruits are definitley needed but good deals are hard to find during the January window, although the premium is usually cranked up most for strikers or creative players, fortunately Hammers main requirement is for an additional right back and a midfield enforcer.

Victor Moses and João Mário, from Chelsea and Inter Milan, are both apparently surplus to requirements at their clubs and both have experienced successfull loan spells with West Ham already in their careers, both are tailor made to slot straight in to a Manuel Pellegrini inspired team, both would benefit from the exposure gained from playing at the London Stadium, which despite fans' gripes is seen as an iconic Stadium and one of the best in the World, yes really! West Ham United is a club that people from abroad know much better that say Everton or any of the other clubs below the top six, and the London Stadium is seen as an ideal location to 'get a player's 'career back on track, so long as Hammers benefit what is the problem? - Ed

Hammers To Put Carroll In The Shop Window Ahead Of January

The usual scenario when Hammers striker Andy Carroll returns from one of his perrenial long term injuries is that he comes back for a couple of games, gets his Mojo back, plays a blinder and then picks up yet another injury, usually a long term one! The process of recovery then begins again as he takes back his permanently reserved place in the Kieron Dyer memorial ward of the club's medical facilities, however Carroll's potential return was temporarily suspended despite him being fit and available for the Manchester City game, was this part of a cunning plan?

In the past Carroll has been rushed back, usually far too early, because he was relatively vital to the team, but his pivotal role as striker number one was never cemented due to the horrendous amount of injuries he has acquired during his Hammers career, the pivotal role that he was supposed to fulfill has now been filled by Marko Arnoutovic. Manuel Pellegrini will have been only too aware of Big Andy's history, Carroll's bones being made of such a delicate material that Chinese bone china manufacturers have requested the formula, ha is if he would give up that particular secret.

A return in the squad to face Newcastle, the club that sold him for a british record £35 Million to Liverpool back in the day, may well give the Toon a chance to see what they've missed and a chance for Big Andy to put himself in the shop window, or more accurately a chance for West Ham to put him in the shop window ahead of January. The club has already got a replacement to fill the 'perennially injured on big money' slot in the form of 'Limping' Jack Wilshere, so Carroll isn't needed anymore!

Who on earth would want to buy Carroll, even when temporarily fit? Well, there's always a mug around somehwere isn't there? After all during his loan spell and his six year contract Carroll will have received just shy of £30 Million in wages, which added to the £15 Million plus fees West Ham eventually paid Liverpool to make the deal permanent works out at a little less than £50 Million. Carroll has scored 33 League goals during the entire period which equates to a cost of roughly £1.6 Million per goal, his agent Mark Curtis must have laughed himself stupid when he emerged from the meeting where Carroll was signed, he might even have given someone a Villa as a thank you for helping get the deal over the line although we are not allowed to mention who.

Pellegrini has got enough on his plate at the moment without having to try and accomodate a 'Unicorn' of a player, returning for probably the briefest of moments before the inevitable injury occurs, after all it is nearly Christmas the pantomine season starts shortly and the Hammers medical team know only too well to look behind them! - Ed

Sometimes It's Not Good To Talk Marky

Unless you have been unable to see any Barclays Premier League football this season, it would be impossible not to be impressed with the league's runaway leaders style of play. They arrived at the London Stadium and simply took West Ham apart, ironically Hammers did't play poorly they were just blown away! Little more than a Manchester City victory could be envisaged even by the most devoted and hard core of fans ahead of the match, but did they have to have it handed to them on a plate?

Ahead of the game Hammers captain Mark Noble described City as 'scary' in his Evening Standard column, he then proceeded to essentially say that there was hardly any point in trying to compete with such a superior team and that the fixtures after the match were winnable so it was best just to take the beating and look forward to the forthcoming fixtures against lower opposition. On the one hand the captain's honesty should be applauded, however there are those who believe the admission of an impending loss before a ball had even been kicked smacked of defeatism in the extreme!

What on earth was Noble doing? Fresh from his needless three match ban, his 'proclomation' did little to engender any form of hope to players and fans alike. There is an adage when it comes to 'press' releases ahead of important matches, and that is to keep your mouth shut unless you have something of note to say, sometimes less is more and in this instance the message to Mr West Ham should be: "Sometimes It's Not Good To Talk Marky". The negativity of the pre-match comments were further exasperated at the London Stadium by the fact that Mark Noble was on the bench and not even in the starting line up, in the end he didn't even come on as a substitute.

Next week sees a journey 'oop' North to face Newcastle, where Benitez and Pellgrini, both ex-Real Madrid managers, will lock horns in the 'bargain basement' of the league. Hammers have nothing to be complacent about as yet so hopefully the team can play with a bit of freedom, and of course as it's pantomine season Big Andy Carroll will be available to face the club that sold him to Liverpool for £35 Million. The bookies have already stopped taking bets on how long he will last before picking up his usual pre-christmas long term injury.

Hammers have eight decent fixtures to follow, perhaps a little more thought might go in to the pre-match publicity in order to avoid the sort of unnecessary issues that lose talk can cause. -Ed

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Team against Newcastle

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Think you are going to see massive changes in the side that played Citeh, for a start, I would drop Masuaku and I'd sell him, invest the money in a new left back, and you know who I'd give a go? -Ogbona he played left back for Italy give him a try at west ham cant be worse than Arthur Masuaku. put Obiang on the Bench for Noble I' also play Snodgrass and I' start with Carrol because that looked a bad injury for Marco and I will be surprised to see him play the Geordies.

Confirmed West Ham United v Manchester City Line Ups

West Ham United: Fabianski, Zabaleta, Balbuena, Diop, Masuaku, Obiang, Rice, Diangana, Anderson, Arnautovic, Antonio. Subs: Adrian, Cresswell, Carroll, Noble, Chicharito, Ogbonna, Perez.
Manchester City: Ederson, Walker, Otamendi, Laporte, Delph, Fernandinho, Gundogan, Silva, Sane, Aguero, Sterling. Subs: Muric, Kompany, Stones, Mahrez, Jesus, Zinchenko, Foden.
Referee: Andre Marriner
Assistants: Scott Ledger, Simon Long
Fourth official: Keith Stroud

plaistow-man is home!

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Well fellow orgers it is true and is The London Stadium ready for THE man from plaistow! I have (as you are aware) travelled around northern grounds in recent years but yes I am here for the Citeh match , this sadly due to finance and time available that apart from a stadium tour and The Stones (May 25th gig) is only my second home game at our new "home" I am buzzing and yes confident (well more in hope than expectation) a win for the Mighty Irons is just what the doctor ordered.... well after all The Blue mooners will have to lose to someone and why not us.

Hammers v Man City Fantasy Island Or Slaughter Of The Lambs?

The maginifcent 'fairly financed' Manchester City showboat rolls up at The London Stadium this weekend where 'Pelle's men will take on 'Pep's, the gulf in class will be obvious and many people will have written the home team's chances off without a thought. Manuel Pellegrini was replaced by Pep Guardiola at Manchester City despite winning the Premier League, the way he took the decision further ingratiated him with the City supporters who named him 'this gentle man' after the Smiths song of the same title.

Sentiment aside Pellegrini would love nothing more than to pull an upset against his former employers, however the pragmatic Chilean will have no illusions as to the Herculian task ahead of his 'expensively assembled' team facing a 'stratospherically' expensively assembled City team. Pundits and both home and away fans have virtually written off Hammers chances of getting anything out of the game, despite a recent upturn in form West Ham are still a bottom half side, but surely they should still have a chance against high flying City shouldn't they? We actually went through most of the sportsbooks found here to remove all uncertainty and the consensus is clear: no, they truly don't. That said Hammers were perennial thorns in the side of the other half of Manchester when they were in their pomp, before United's fall from grace and their being usurped by City West Ham team's regularly turned up to the spoil the party for the Red Devils.

Marko Arnoutovic will once again lead the line, the talismanic forward will have made many fans happy with his recent Instagram comments relating to his commitment to the club, contrary to press reports initiated by his agent who is of course his brother. Reading between the lines it appears that Arnie's brother overstepped the line and has been 'sanctioned' by his sibling, either way in the short term at least the Austrian can be relied upon to keep coming up with the goods, unlike a certain Frenchman who had his head turned when speculation about a transfer to Marseille became rife.

The legendary striker known as Andy Carroll, who's appearances are rarer than a Unicorn's, is available for inclusion in the squad having come through a behind closed doors friendly earlier this week following his recovery from yet another long term injury, Carroll's compadre in the Kieron Dyer memorial wing Jack Wilshere is also nearing return from injury however he is being pencilled in for possible selection against Newcastle the weekend after next. after all the management don't want both players colliding during their warm ups do they?

Elsewhere Mark Noble will be available for selection following the three match ban he served for his senseless sending off against Leicester City, hopefully his legs will have returned as a result of his 'rest period' because they had definitely 'left the building' before his enforced break. Unfortunatley Robert Snodgrass is suspended having picked up five yellow cards, the very fact that his unavailability is a loss is testament to the effort and application he has shown since 'Pello' took him under his wing, 'Snoddy' has won many fans over with his blood and guts displays of late, what he lacks in finnesse he makes up for with passion and commitment, he looks an entirely different player than the one who arrived from Hull City who was unfit and overweight.

Pellegrini will be hoping that stalwart defender Pablo Zabaleta will be able to put a shift in against his old City colleagues, the management team will have their fingers crossed as both of the club's other senior right backs, Sam Byram and Ryan Fredericks have sustained season ending injuries leaving the veteran Zaba as the only recognised right back. His performances this season have defied belief but he cannot sustain the amount of effort he has been putting in, it is just not possible and he himself has already hinted that this will be his last 'competitive' season.

Hammers back line will experience a new form of the 'Press' system that is so popular among elite teams, but in Issa Diop and Fabian Balbuena they have acquired the best centre back pairing they have had since 'Ginge' and 'Winny' in their prime. With the excellent Lukas Fabianski between the sticks there is at least a chance of the score remaining respectable, and West Ham do have a reputation for pulling results out of nowhere against all the odds, so long as the team put in a shift defeat or a draw would not be unacceptable.

It is all about playing the West Ham way, that mythical state of flux that is invisible to luddite managers and people of scorn, if a team and it's supporters cannot dream then what is the point? It should be remembered that not that long ago Manchester City were languishing in what was the old third division, but they still had crowds of over 19,000 turning up! They believed, so why shouldn't Hammers supporters believe in the Dream? It might be closer than you think. -Ed

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