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Submitted by Dartford Bhoy on Thu, 06/06/2019 - 12:45

I guess you guess may have already seen / heard this. Its a bit of a long haul but very interesting so stick with it.

http://kumb.com/story.php?id=133593

Couple of things that are maybe a bit worrying:

1) Move to a bigger stadium and larger support with cheap tickets hasn't yielded a great more revenue, less than £2M / season!
2) Money available for transfers in this window depended on players leaving.
3) Value of the club "just" £300M.
4) Umbro are owned by Nike... didnt know that!
5) We need more football Tourists, implying too many season ticket holders that are conventional fans not spending enough on match day.

Im sure that last observation had 65 in mind :o)

Why no British Links?

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Submitted by boogerscaravan on Tue, 04/06/2019 - 19:07

I don't get it. Quite a strong statement to open with. But I don't. Why is it, the only players we ever seem to be linked with are from abroad?

Half of the names I see I have to look up. I've never heard of them. They are from minor leagues in obscure countries. They are relatively cheap is that because nobody has ever heard of them? Or is it because their wage demands are minuscule, compared to bigger names?

Lots of questions. I'm sure I'm not alone with this. So why no British links? Just chucking a few names around. Jack Grealish ok he may have the image of a big time Charlie. But is he? Or is that the persona the tabloids have you believe. Just because he's young, has a dodgy haircut and funny socks. Does that make him a bad player. Tom Cairney, Scott Mctominay, Matt Doherty, Rob Holding, Andre Gray, Harvey Barnes, Mason Mount, to name just a few. Why does Pelligrini insist on looking abroad?

The players I've mentioned could all be acquired for the same price, as the low rent muppets from overseas constantly linked. Why do we have to settle for Juan Sheet, Huey Dewey Luiz, or Lorenzo Fuckedifiknow. OK I'm taking the peez now but I just don't get it..............

Strange Goings On Between Hammers & Fenerbahce

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Submitted by nevillenixon on Tue, 04/06/2019 - 14:02

Admittedly it is the beginning of the transfer silly season, and as such speculation is rife, but there are some wildly polarised stories regarding potential dealings between Turkish outfit Fenerbahce and West Ham United. That old 'friend' of the Irons, a certain Mr Damien Comolli, yes the same one who used to do the dirty work for Daniel Levy and the 'unmentionables', is rumoured to be on his way to London in order to try and buy Hammers midfielder Manuel Lanzini on the cheap!

According to the Turkish press, Fenerbahce are looking to replace Mathieu Valbuena by signing Lanzini, it’s reported that after losing Valbuena to Olympiacos on a free transfer, the Turkish club are in the market for a creative midfielder and Lanzini is said to be an option. Laughably it is being reported that West Ham are prepared to sell Lanzini cheaply, so long as it isn't to another Premier League team, in order to help fund the projected new arrivals.

On the face of it the story is ludicrous, but some will say Lanzini is only half the player now than he was before his horrific injury, the jury is out on this one though because with the benefit of a full pre-season's training Lanzini could well return right on form. Manuel Pellegrini is a known admirer of 'the little jewel' Lanzini, and it would take a seismic offer for Pelle to sanction an exit move for a player that he originally wanted to build his team around.

A much more plausible link between West Ham the Turkish club is that Hammers are looking to activate Fenerbahce's captain Hasan Ali Kaldirim’s £4.4Million release clause this summer. Kaldirim currently plays left wing back for the Super Lig side, however he can easily play as an orthodox left back as well. Born in Germany Ali Kaldirim is a a full Turkey international with 30 caps since making his debut in 2012, the same year he signed for the Turkish club, the 29 year old started his career at FC Kaiserslautern before moving onto FC Mainz in 2009. Kaldirim moved to Turkey, firstly for Kayserispor, before moving to Fenerbahce where he has made 224 appearances in his seven years at the club, netting five goals along the way. Kaldirim suffered a disappointing season, with his side only finishing 6th in the Super Lig, getting knocked out of the Turkish cup in the round of 16 and failing in the Champions League qualification stages, which subsequently left them in the Europa League where they lost to Zenit St Petersburg in the round of 32.

Even both BBC Sport and the Daily Mirror are running with the story that Mario Husillos is keen to bring the player to the London Stadium this summer. Kaldirim's 'minuscule' £4.4 Million release clause currently in his contract makes him an ideal target for 'cash strapped' West Ham, being able to sign such an experienced player for such a low price is unusual, especially a club captain, it seems that it is not only the West Ham of the past who are good at 'cocking up' player's contracts!

Although Manuel Pellegrini already does have Aaron Cresswell and Arthur Masuaku in the left back/left wing back positions, the signing of Kaldirim could provide strength in depth and put pressure on the pair to up their game. At £4.4 Million and on wages that are easily affordable, Kaldirim could prove to be just as shrewd an acquisition as that of the General, Fabian Balbuena. - Ed

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Maybe Hammers Should Have Sold Hernandez Instead of Fernandes?

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Submitted by nevillenixon on Tue, 04/06/2019 - 12:13

Edimilson Fernandes has joined German Bundesliga club 1. FSV Mainz on a permanent transfer for an undisclosed fee, the reason the fee is undisclosed is confusing to most people, in essence by stating the fee is undisclosed both selling and buying club are free to structure the payments in order to harmonise with their fiscal declarations, this form of 'secrecy' is very common, particularly in Europe.

The Switzerland midfielder departs West Ham United after three years in east London, having joined the Hammers from Swiss club Sion in August 2016. Fernandes totalled 48 first-team appearances across his first two seasons at London Stadium, scoring a goal in an EFL Cup win over Chelsea in October 2016, the 23-year-old spent the 2018/19 campaign on loan at Italian Serie A club Fiorentina.

The 'undisclosed fee' of around £8 Million is not very high considering Edimilson's age, but what is done is done. The alarming aspect of Fernandes's departure is that his sale was necessary in order to balance the books and make funds available for player acquisitions, however the savings of getting Fernandes off the books pale in to insignificance when compared with how much Javier Hernández has cost and is continuing to the club.

Hernández's wages alone could pay for three players, and that is before allowing for the huge loss the club will make even if they are able to sell on the 31 year old Mexican. Much has been said recently about the catastrophic costs associated with the long running Andy Carroll injury plague, but 'Chicharito' has cost even more pro rata than the big geordie! Signed on 24 July 2017 for £17 Million, Hernández was given a three year contract at an eye watering £140,000 per week, someone must surely have been at their 'pipe' to have sanctioned such a deal!

It is highly unlikely that West Ham will recoup even half of Hernández's original cost, but even assuming there is a team that is unwise enough to pay £10 Million, the numbers make appalling reading, Chicharito has cost, if you assume a £7 Million loss on his transfer, an astonishing £406,000 per game and £1,437,335 per goal! Those figures are 'Carrollesque', no club outside the top four can afford exorbitant costs like Hernandez, the club should be concentrating on getting him out the door as a matter of urgency! - Ed

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Hammers Should Be OK For Keepers As 3rd Back Up Signs

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Submitted by nevillenixon on Mon, 03/06/2019 - 12:45

Manuel Pellegrini and Mario Husillos's proposed wholesale changes to the Hammers squad included a goal keeper, a right back/left back, a 'robust' midfielder and a couple of strikers. With regards to the back up keeper role, a bit like London Buses, not one but two have arrived in a very short space of time.

West Ham have signed David Martin, son of Hammers legend Alvin, from Millwall, the 33-year-old joins on a free transfer. Martin rejected a new contract offer from Millwall and has instead agreed a two-year deal with the Hammers.

Martin's career had a setback in March when his mistake in the 95th minute against Brighton cost Millwall a place in the FA Cup semi-finals. He allowed a harmless free-kick from Solly March to float beyond his grasp into the net. But he otherwise had a strong finish to the season with Millwall as they stayed up in the Championship.

West Ham signed 33-year-old Spanish goalkeeper Roberto from Espanyol last week and Martin will also provide back-up for Lukasz Fabianski, Martin said: “Signing for West Ham United is a dream, both for me and my family. I have grown up around West Ham and to come to my boyhood club is a dream. “I came to games as a kid as one of the supporters in the stands at the Boleyn Ground. I loved watching my dad play, and I have continued coming to games throughout my career. I will go into training every day with an attitude to compete with Lukasz and Roberto.”

Martin's arrival guarantees Nathan Trott will go out on loan, there are a host of clubs interested in taking the Hammers young england player on loan, and careful consideration will be given to his final loan destination as Trott is eyed as a potential 'jewel in the crown' player. - Ed

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Superb Midfielder Won't 'Cost A Fortune' For Irons

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Submitted by nevillenixon on Sun, 02/06/2019 - 20:12

Rarely does a Hammers transfer target had such an apt name, as the club are closing in on signing Greece midfielder Kostas Fortounis from Olympiakos. The 26 year old can play as a centre back or in midfield and stands 6'2" tall, so he won't get intimidated. The price being talked about is around £16 Million, not cheap but relatively inexpensive in today's insanely inflated market, so he won't 'cost a fortune'!
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West Ham's pursuit of Barcelona star Andre Gomes, who was on loan at Everton for a year, is all but over as it is increasingly apparent he will be far too expensive for the club,but Fortounis is within the club's price range and a player highly recommended by sporting director Mario Husillos. Husillos worked with Fortounis briefly at Olympiakos, with the midfielder already an established international.

Fortounis has been a regular in the last five years with Olympiakos after a spell in Germany with FC Kaiserslauter, Husillos has obviously identified the need for a player equally adept as part of the back line or in midfield if required, it seems the penny has finally dropped with Manuel Pellegrini and Mario Husillos with them realising they made an enormous 'ricket' by signing Jack Wilshere, they won't admit it to the press, but they know Jack was their only cock up in what was otherwise a superb season of recruitment!

The pragmatic approach of Pellegrini and Husillos is to be admired, far better to recognise a problem that is going to continue rather than ignoring it, a 'head in the sand' attitude was adopted far too often in the past by those in control of player acquisitions, those decisions cost the club dear, it is to be hoped lessons really have been learned, you never know, perhaps Olympiakos will take Jack Wilshere as part of the deal? Well, hope springs eternal. - Ed

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Ay Ay Wack

Submitted by essex boy on Sat, 01/06/2019 - 11:15

When you walk through a storm,hold your head up high,and dont be afraid of the YIDS!!!!!! ......Ay Ay Whack,Calm Down,Lets bring the cup back to the Pool........Lets hope so,or next season it will be.....we know what we are champions of europe,and all that bollocks,the power of thought and prayer be with all us orgers Lol

Un Portero Por Otro Bob Replaces Aide As Back Up

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Submitted by nevillenixon on Fri, 31/05/2019 - 17:54

Hammers have neatly arranged a 'spanish take over' as back up between the sticks, Roberto, 33, will join them on a two-year contract on July 1, once his deal with La Liga club Espanyol expires, he will replace Adrian San Miguel. Many, many Hammers fans will be sad to see Adrian leave the club, and rightly so, he was a stalwart as custodian but was usurped by Lukasz Fabianski.

Essentially Adrian is too good to be a back up keeper, he bided his time this season hoping that Fabianski would have a bad performance or loss of form, alas it was not to be. Having already had to 'see' off Darren Randolph and Joe Cole, Adrian had hoped to cement his position, but along came Fabianski who was just that little bit better, and that'little bit' can mean the difference between defeat and victory in the unforgiving 'battlefield' that is the Barclays Premier League.

Roberto is well known to Mario Husillos, Hammers head of recruitment, and is willing to play cup games and be available should Fabianski get injured, have a loss of form or get suspended. Roberto's arrival will be the cue for Hammers young England keeper, 20 year old Nathan Trott to go out on loan to a championship side in order to continue his development in to the superb keeper he is destined to be. - Ed

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clubs in turmoil and no not us this time!

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Submitted by mcbikeman on Fri, 31/05/2019 - 14:10

Manure and Gooners fell way below there expectations last season and both have a massive rebuilding job on there hands and both want the same players in the same positions gk/lb/rb/cb/cb/mid/....both want the top players but neither in the champions league and in the gooners case they could well lose both there strikers to champions league clubs so while we shop at lidl and aldi maybe Asda those two will be stabbing each other in the back and fighting to the bitter end over the elite end of the market or rather the hand me downs of champs league teams who deem certain players surplus to requirements......gotta love that.

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