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Submitted by darrenharry on Fri, 20/03/2015 - 10:17

Another Sam post, that’s what they want! The masses did not cry.
But my lord, any form of social media, sports channels, newspapers, magazines, my conversations with other Dads on the school run, Loose women debates, GMTV, PM question time, everywhere you go everyone and anyone is talking about his future….
I’ve been very busy for a while now. Life, children, work etc. It seems the more successful the team (were) are my private life ramps up accordingly, precluding me from dedicating as much time as I would like to follow the fortunes of those that often hide.
Obviously this coincided with the death of the .org, (long live the .org) that saw many of us wandering the virtual wasteland like a bad Tron film (is there a good one?) trying to jump onto the cart of another WHU forum vehicle. Realising that the inhabitants are strange or the clique was tight to get into (good fun trying though….I digress). It was a strange time, the team were scoring like it was going out of fashion, 4th place felt….natural….Sam was kissing other men (well, Russell Brand) people in work began to talk less about football for fear of me extolling the virtues of Diaffra or Chek.
But like a wet fart, you know it’s around the corner sooner or later.
The fall from grace. Down with the decorations, the strange injuries (teacup?) the strange signings (Ninny Nene Nanny or whatever his name is, a Canadian called Henry with hamstrings tighter than a 4 string bass).
You know it’s coming, but like my wife when she pulls my trousers down, you really don’t want to face it.
So to Sam. We must you see. We can’t ignore it. The board are trying their best, but the cacophony of rumour and counter rumour is now louder than Madonna backstage at the Brits. And of course it affects the team. I believe no one who says “The lads don’t listen to it, they just get on and play the game they love”….rubbish. Poppycock. Every footballer is a man child, most of them barely able to stir their own tea let alone make it. Giving a child no security or sense of belonging is damaging. It’s the same for a team (the clue is in the name).
So the org, and the rest of them, will be divided into 2 camps (David) – Camp David – do you reckon he was? I digress again….
So how do you eat yours? Oh no sorry that’s Cadburys crème egg isn’t it – easily confused with Easter calling us.
I meant which way do you hang? Oh no, that’s something else entirely, that’s a different forum I’m involved with….
So are you for Sam or against Sam?
I think, putting on my fedora to be sensible for once, you have to apply some cold hard business sense, a dash of reality, a splodge of history and a dribble performance examination.
Many will argue I’ll always counter the popular opinion, and this is often the case. However, I think in this case, my head and heart still say, keep him.
No, I don’t really like him. He’s arrogant, not very flexible, stubborn, antiquated, reactive.
But I counter this with his CV with us. Promotion. Consolidation. Purchase improvement. League placing improvement. Securing players long term futures.
Whether he stumble upon all those signings is a moot point. Whether he made the team play more expansively and attacking in the first half of the season is irrelevant (they did) whether he thought of Downing at the tip of the diamond, Song to hold. It happened. And for that the man takes credit.
Awful run of form lately, agreed. Back to the bad old days. But there was a time when a man could take some credit and store it up. I think he’s earned this bit from the first half of the season.
Agreed, the run in will be very interesting. But he’s doing this without 2 first choice centre halves and 2 first choice forwards at the moment. That’s not easy.
And what if we get rid? Some lovely names out there; Klopp, Bilic, Moyes, Benitez etc. The average length of time a manger needs to implement ideas, review squad and make it his own is 18 months. I for one am fed up of this merry go round. I don’t want to watch works in progress. I want to watch someone who has had 3 or 4 years, with their players, their mind set, accountability. Now if you look at it from that point of view, our team is 10th, with one of the best assembled squads in around 15 years.
The cliché is “careful what you wish for”. I don’t think that applies here.
I think people have forgotten their manners (something that used to be an East end tradition) and have forgotten to thank Sam for what he’s already done.
We probably won’t miss him when he’s gone, for a multitude of reasons. But when I look at the squad he inherited, and what we have now, allied to some flashes of wonderful football this season, I think we need to take a cold, hard look at ourselves.
Let’s show a bit of respect. Keep our powder dry and don’t, for the love of god, start turning into whingers.
I for one love a pounding at home to the Palace of Crystal. Makes me feel alive. Reminds me my fallible club should really appreciate the good times, and maybe, dare I say it……laugh a bit more, even at the bad times.
Else you’ll turn into a spud…

Holidays!

Submitted by Hammers65 on Wed, 18/03/2015 - 18:36

Off topic & something a little different from the" will he or wont he go" saga (big Sam!) ive posted before & holidays are my thing.I would like to know where any of you fine orgers are going or planning to go,on holiday this year?.Anywhere exotic?or somewhere not too far from blighty?Me & her indoors have been to el gouna- egypt in january just gone,loved it weather was great,egyptian people very friendly.Booked algarve portugal for end of may & are planning to go to again in october!Now that flights go from southend airport (on my doorstep) we are planning to buy a place in the algarve for our retirement fingers crossed!!so how about your hols peeps??

the game last night

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Submitted by Burkie 1 on Wed, 18/03/2015 - 13:37

if this sounds like treachery , and before im condemned to oblivion , i just want to say how much i enjoyed the Arse match last night , increadable to think its their fifth year in a row to exit at this stage, i thought it was a demonstration of what football should be , the passing was crisp and precise, fast and furious from both teams , with all crap on tv these days i like nothing more than a mid week match, put the feet up by the fire , a nice cuppa and a bacon sarnie , i wasn't really expecting a good game but boy was i wrong , i was glued to it, at times they play some very entertaining football, and again please forgive me but i felt sorry for them

The Daves, Karren, Boris and (the SECRET DEAL!)

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Submitted by plaistow-man on Wed, 18/03/2015 - 13:18

So Boris is under pressure to reveal (which he won't) the secret deal regards how much would be handed over if Mssrs Sullivan and Gold sell the club once we have moved to Stratford! Now we have paid around £15m up front and agreed a £2.5m per annum rent plus a % of catering profits and (if I'm correct) Stadium naming rights.
A lot of hoo ha going on about the £600m cost to the tax payer but what would have become of the stadium had we not been granted preferred and main tenants?
But did the Davids not offer to buy the stadium but were scuppered by Mssrs Hearn and Levy?
Will Premeir league football ensure business and job security for many in Westfield (especially food and drink outlets)?
Has the regeneration of lower Green Street been ignored with new state of the art housing thus protecting local business?
As I am given to understand West Ham will need to maintain the stadium (saving HM taxpayer money) an annual income and more jobs in the area. Am I missing something? But I would like to thank the fans of Chelsea, Arsenal, Tottenham, Man City and Utd and all others for donating so generously to our new home (and we had to get something back from those thieves in Sheffield lol) ohh and almost forgot how much lottery money went toward the stadium? so not as if our own fans have not contributed greatly (I know I did!) But I add final (takes a deep breath) the VAT returns should be quite substantial as well.

People we REALLY should not employ as our next manager.

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Submitted by Bullyhammer on Wed, 18/03/2015 - 11:10

David Beckham, former football star:
"I definitely want Brooklyn to be christened, but I don't know into what religion yet."

Britney Spears, singer:
"I've never really wanted to go to Japan. Simply because I don't like eating fish. And I know that's very popular out there in Africa."

Brooke Shields, actor:
"Smoking can kill you. And if you're killed, you've lost a very important part of your life."

Arnold Schwarzenegger, actor-turned-politician:
"I think that gay marriage is something that should be between a man and a woman."

George W Bush, former US president:
"I think war is a dangerous place."

Ozzy Osbourne, rock star:
"Of all the things I've lost, it's my mind I miss the most."

Miley Cyrus, singer:
"Chihuahuas are the most scary animals on the planet."

Tom Cruise, actor:
"As a kid, when I got to the edge of a cliff I wanted to jump off, I didn’t want to kill myself. I wanted to fly."

Heather Whitestone, Miss Alabama 1994:
"I would not live forever, because we should not live forever, because if we were ever supposed to live forever, then we would live forever, but we cannot live forever, which is why I would not live forever."

Samuel Goldwyn, film producer:
"I don’t think anybody should write his autobiography until after he’s dead."

Kellie Pickler, country music singer:
"I thought Europe was a country."

Hammers Curse Continues, Now It's Henry And Tomkins!

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Submitted by nevillenixon on Wed, 18/03/2015 - 10:40

West Ham's centre half Doneil Henry has been ruled out for the rest of the season after sustaining a serious hamstring during Blackburn's 3-1 victory over Charlton Athletic on Saturday. The news was confirmed yesterday afternoon by Rovers boss Gary Bowyer."Unfortunately for Doneil Henry it is going to be the end of his season for him, he's with a specialist as we speak. We wish him all the very best." Henry, who moved to West Ham during the January transfer window has already returned to Chadwell Heath, where he is currently being assessed. This dreadful news was shortly followed by the official confirmation of James Tomkins' need for surgery on his dislocated shoulder, like Henry, Tomkins will be out for the rest of the season. Losing two central defenders for the remainder of the season is going to put a lot of pressure on the Ginger Pele and warrior Reid, they will have to be supplemented by Cheik Kayoute, this in turn would mean Morgan Almafitino or Diego Poyet would have to be brought into the midfield in order to try and emulate the high energy that Kayoute brings to the game.
This has not been the best of weeks for West Ham fans, and annoyingly Big Sam has already started on his pre-match negativity routine by saying how hard the match against Sunderland is going to be, during this season Hammers have beaten Manchester City and Liverpool at the Boleyn, surely Allardyce should be reminding his squad of what they can do, not what they should fear! -Ed

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Jurgen Klopp

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Submitted by Stevey shep on Wed, 18/03/2015 - 09:14

great article by Martin Samuel.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2999828/Forget-David-M...
Personally i'd go for Rafa, a lot of people saying i'm aiming too high but i think he'd be better than Moyes and in my opinion a lot of players would want to come with him in charge.
As the article above says we should be aiming high as we are becoming a very attractive club.
No settling for second best anymore, time to push on and Allardyce while being a safe bet is past his date at West Ham. Not sure about Kloppi don't think he'd leave Dortmund.. Thoughts?

Don't want Allardyce -- Do want Moyes?

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Submitted by Bullyhammer on Wed, 18/03/2015 - 08:55

Would those who would like to see David Moyes replace Sam Allardyce explain how they see Moyes as an improvement over Allardyce. I see little to choose between the kind of football we would see if such a change happened.

Would you still welcome tevez back?

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Submitted by harrythehammers on Tue, 17/03/2015 - 22:21

Rumours abound that Tevez could be making a return to the Boleyn in the Summer if juventus sign Paulo Dybala but at 31 is this really a good idea? Whilst I am sure he still has the goal scoring ability surely this is a backward step?

QPR to be fined

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Submitted by NorthHertsHammer on Tue, 17/03/2015 - 20:30

QPR to be fined about £58 million pounds for spending to much and then trying to write off the account by other means as of the daily mail,I wonder if it's true lol.Have other roger'so seen it ?

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