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Submitted by mcbikeman on Thu, 14/01/2016 - 12:21

Do the so called big clubs actually do that? I honestly think not look at citeh and there laughable attempts to find a decent centre half to go alongside kompany when fit...throw money at it make that a helluva lot of money so paying £30/35 million for a player he must be brilliant...errr no...look at the youth policy of these clubs as well its truly pointless..chelski the biggest culprits there why promote players when you simply go out and buy who you want ready made......clubs like ours though its different we don't have that kind of money to throw around but clearly we have people who no what we are looking for...obiang never noticed him before but bam he is a decent player much overlooked because of Payet now there is another who lets be honest we never really heard of but for£10million what a bargain...sakho another when he played at palace last season coming on as a sub like many I thought here we go maiga mark2 but no you suddenly noticed his movement his pace and clear skill in front of goal....Antonio of course is another ogbonna the juve defender he goes about his work calmly.....all these players clearly known about and scouted properly before the transfers made and now lanzini what a player....first real look at him against astra Giurgiu he scores but me and my west ham mates thought not bad but probably to lightweight for the prem....how wrong can you be...clearly someone somewhere had good knowledge about this player and he was worth the risk and like payet you cannot imagine a west ham side without him.....so now all the so called big clubs start sniffing around and who knows in the summer some daft money could be thrown about but if they invested that in proper scouting they may not have had to waste so much money.....

players agents grrr

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Submitted by mcbikeman on Thu, 14/01/2016 - 11:48

Don't they just p**s you off....obiangs the latest stating his client is interested in a move back to Italy(Napoli) and in the same breath claiming he is very happy in London playing for a side fighting at the top of the table....yeah its all about him trying to get his client a better deal and he has to be seen to be doing something to justify his fee but personally and of course it wont happen but I would like the club to call the player and agent in and call his/there bluff by saying something like we understand you want a move back to Italy and we wont stand in your way if we get a £10million fee for you your wages we cannot increase as you only signed the deal at the start of this season so we will let you go for the transfer fee we just quoted and because we do not want to upset the harmony of the squad we have spoken to the manager and he thinks it wise you go train with the development squad away from the first team.. thank you for your efforts this season hope the future goes well with you.....then lets see what he says to his agent!

Antonio Settles In

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Submitted by Headless Chicken Run on Wed, 13/01/2016 - 21:04

When I joined this site late last year, I started a discussion about Antonio and how much I wanted to see him get some game time, so I thought I'd follow it up with another thread.
Since he got his break into first team action due to Moses's injury, he has improved with each and every game. Puts in a great shift and works tirelessly. He has gained confidence and he is now showing why we paid £7 mill for him. Yes, he steams in, yes he loses control of the ball occasionally, but he is a big man and scares the opposition with his pace and power. He's become a very important member of the team now in my opinion and Mr Moses will find it very hard to dislodge him. He has steppeed up and grabbed his opportunity with both hands and deserves as much praise as Dimitri. We all adore Dimitri and I'm pretty sure it wont be long before we all adore Antonio as well. Another gem from the Championship, they are there and if we can get Byram in from Leeds, I'm sure he'll be another.

Disgusted last night, ashamed to be a hammer. But then I suppose I'm too old

Submitted by Red Neck Iron on Wed, 13/01/2016 - 14:31

I got a confession to make. During the game last night I was flicking from this forum, bbc, the official site and one other fans forum, in a vain bid for more information. By half time I flick on the fans forum to get a better idea how we were playing. I was ashamed to say over three quarters of the fans were abusive to the team in such an extreme, needless and uncontructive way I had to come off the web in shock. Luckily my son texted the Payet goal which made me switch on again. Call themselves fans? Just abusive morons. Yes ok it may have been bad, but if that's their response go and support someone else. One or 2 had suggested we were against a strong win, would it not have been fair to the team to suggest Bournemouth may suffer in the same way we did in the second half? Every single player in that first have was abused on that site just for the sake of it. If you are gona critise a players performance or ability at least raise a constructive argument. Knuckle draggers. Wish these idiots didn't attach themselves to my club.

Long live the King!

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Submitted by darrenharry on Wed, 13/01/2016 - 09:41

It’s probably time for us, as a collective group, to all sit back for a moment.
We all need a few moments to ponder what we are witnessing.
As an attending fan of 35 years, my default position is cynicism, glass half empty and worst case scenario mentality. I’ve seen more relegation battles than is appropriate for a man of my age. I’ve invaded the pitch during the Bond Scheme. I’ve wept as best players are sold and inferior replacements are bought.
But every now and then, on the pitch, something happens at West Ham, with a player so incredulously gifted, the country turns their head and wonders “how”?
80’s- McAvennie, 90’s – Di Canio…..the path then became overgrown with a myriad of weeds and generic country land fodder.
We delude ourselves into thinking the next Academy breakthrough will “be the one”. Yet since 2000 there have been no players to empty bars, no players to strike fear into the opposition, no players other fans look at enviously.
Enter Dimitri Payet.
I confess I’d never heard of the chap. My interest in European football dwindled when Gazza left Lazio (yes that long). I care little for Champions League. It’s like watching quality porn. Looks lovely, but you know you’ll never get there.
Once signed, the stats were rolled out. Set up more chances Messi and Harry Potter combined last season, 28, French international (isn’t everyone?). A fair bit of money was cast across the channel, so a level of expectation naturally attached itself to him, but again, we’d been here before – Savio?
In addition I noted some sparkling wine chap – Lambrini – had also been signed. There’s one for the loan system and a brief cup appearance I thought (the “old” me doesn’t forget).
So the pre-season began. I got a last minute ticket for Southend with a friend. I strolled along. In the Southend end. Expectations middling to fair. I like Bilic, squad was decent. I won’t dwell on the game as a “that was the moment I knew” moment, but without doubt when he ran on the pitch I thought “Trevor Sinclair’s arse”. That wasn’t a bad thing in my book. Need meat on you in the Premier League to hit the ground running (pun intended). One could see straight away he was a class apart, but this was Southend. His free kick was beautifully taken – but this was Southend. I was happy, but, this was Southend.
The season started and the Arsenal game began. But Payet continued playing like he did at Southend. But this was Arsenal? Hold on. …
I knew then we had a decent player. I think we all did. What I’ve not expected is this surge and continuation and acceleration of form. The touch, the awareness, the confidence.
He’s like Tevez, Benayoun and Di Canio all rolled into one. But the added bonus is he has a wonderful temperament, he’s built like a bull and he understands the fans already.
Jesus Christ people this is some player. He could be THE player.
But the part that tops it all off for me? He’s 28. Take 5 years off him and Real Madrid would have him by September. Put 3 years on him and he’s on the downward spiral. We signed him to a 5 year deal, therefore we either enjoy his peak years, or we slap £40m on him and let silly boys fight and bring in 2/3 excellent replacements. Sounds horrible, but see above (worst case scenario mentality).
I’ll go so far to say I don’t think there’s a better player in the Premier League than him right now. I won’t say Europe as there’s a certain few Barcelona players that do this week in week out. He’s a phenomenon for us though.
Watching the game last night, credit has to go to Bilic. We were fab for the first 10. Carroll’s injury really shook us (but didn’t shock us) and it was evident. We retreated, the midfield lost runners and they could have had 2 or 3. However, all the while the threat we carried was Payet. Direct running, looking left and right, slide rule passes, shooting. Credit here to Antonio too, I thought he had an excellent game. He gave Payet options all night.
That said we were generally poor 1st half.
Step up Mr B. Whatever was said there (and I like to think it was stern) from the 46th minute the entire team steam rollered Bournemouth.
Payet may as well have held a baton in his hand such was his orchestrative influence on the game. 2 players were attracted to him every time he had the ball. Scary thing is, Payet enjoys this and his technical skill level is so vast, allied to his quick burst over 5 yards (Gazza anyone?) it allows him to wriggle out of the tightest gap and scatter well organised defences. They run backwards, he runs forward, head up, scalpel in hand, looking to make the next incision. It’s orgasmic to watch.

The free kick speaks for itself. So technically adept is he that I now EXPECT him to hit the target! It was after this that impressed me more. The OLD West Ham would have retreated; made sure they kept it tight. Not with this team. Payet drives them on. His skill for the 2nd goal is a joy. No room, he takes on 2 players and then delivers a ball of such quality and pace that Enner literally had to angle his foot the right way and it HAD to go in.

Enners 2nd was a worldy too. We know how he hits the ball. Fortunately, opposition keepers do too but have no way of knowing how to stop it. If Ronaldo had scored that we’d have seen it 3,000 times on Sky already this morning. Such is life.
Mr B had seen enough. The cotton wool was taken from them bench and rolled out, he signalled to the maestro and told him to protect that baton. The applause as he went off said it all. The song is now ingrained in folklore (whoever thought of those lyrics is a genius). And he acknowledges it. He knows he is now at a club that worships him. If he likes London, then he can be king for 4 years
The King is dead.
Long live King Payet.
Heady times ladies and gentlemen. We now need to seriously consider Champions League football. This is a team without Sakho, Moses and Lanzini (and a fit and firing Song) and Kouyate and Reid…..? All of these players walk into ¾ of other Premier League teams. That’s a scary thought.
Credit to the Sullivan’s and Mr B. They’ve built something pretty special.
But the best thing about it?
We’ve got Payet.

Payet

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Submitted by Burkie 1 on Wed, 13/01/2016 - 09:19

Im pretty sure that the general consensus of both west ham fans and tv pundits (leaving aside D H L ),dick head. Laurenson) alike would be that Payet is at present the best player in the prem there for how do we hang on to him and not in the time honoured tradition of west ham let him slip through our fingers ,some one said in a previous post that its only a mater of time till the big boys cuma calling ,my opinion for what its worth is that we have a?one year breathing space ,nobodys going to give up the chance to play in the Q E 2 so depending on how we do there ,that it doesn't go tits up and with a massive sallery increase we might ,just might have this guy for the foreseeable future .
When you see our two best players comming from relativity euro minor leagues it would make you think how many more potential geniuses are out there

This Really Is A Great West Ham Team And Manager! 3-1 Away Win!

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Submitted by nevillenixon on Wed, 13/01/2016 - 00:07

Mark Lawrenson, despite his recent 'moment of clarity' got it wrong again, maybe he should be renamed Mark Got It Wrong Son! Despite Liverpool's ex -finest's prediction, a Dimitri Payet inspired West Ham United survived a rocky first half which saw Andy Carroll trouping off in an all too familiar fashion, and the conceding of a goal that Adrian will just have to put down as one of life's errors. The Billic lounge lizard quickly snapped in to place during half time, 'contract lengths' were questioned and family members 'healths' were inquired about!However all things seemed to reach for a more beneficial status quo.
The second half was what supporting West Ham United was all about, memories of Brooking and Di Canio in their pomp shone through as The 'D' Man, Dimitri Payet and Enner valencia proved how far above the 'norm' of players in the Barclays Premier League that they are by delivering two of the most exquisite free kicks you will witness in a long time. In between Enner Valencia beautifully turned in a shot that was his trade mark many games ago before loss of form and injuries took their toll, finally, having scored his first goal(s) since September he is beginning to show why he was such a exciting prospect when he was first signed, maybe Slaven's 'lovetouch' is more seductive than Big Sam's Dudley "let's sort this here thing out" on the pitch theory or (Jurgen Klop's Liverpool sub grope thing!).
Whatever, the fact is that the mighty Hammers have clawed their way above the prawn sandwich brigade in to the fifth spot of the cash rich Barclay's Premier League.
Not bad for a team that 'Lawro' tipped for relegation! - Ed

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